[JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Stefan Groschupf
Title: bearshare









Hi,


some crazy guy had tried to run the jboss micro kernel on a j2me device?


Should that be possible?



Thanks

Stefan 











Re: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Lennart Petersson
Hope it will... cause i will use it like that in a project :)
/L

onsdagen den 11 december 2002 kl 12.03 skrev Stefan Groschupf:


Hi,


some crazy guy had tried to run the jboss micro kernel on a j2me 
device?


Should that be possible?

 

Thanks

Stefan




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AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Stefan Groschupf
Hope it will... cause i will use it like that in a project :)

So we can try it together.. ;-) 
May be some more people will take the same trip.

cheers
Stefan 




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Re: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 06:24 AM, Stefan Groschupf wrote:


Hope it will... cause i will use it like that in a project :)


So we can try it together.. ;-)
May be some more people will take the same trip.


I have.  I got the JBoss MBean kernel to boot with the Sun CVM, but I 
couldn't get anything else to run.  The CVM was very buggy at the time, 
and I have been waiting for a binary release from Sun, which is 
supposed to happen this week.  My goal is to target the high end 
handhelds, but thoes are getting so powerful (400 MHz 256MB) that I 
don't know if we need a 'micro' vm.

-dain



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Re: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Holger Baxmann
my work is more targeted to the small 1..16mbyte devices, like ajile,
ds80400 and ez80. should be possible to port the cvm to this ones.

bax

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 On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 06:24 AM, Stefan Groschupf wrote:
 
 Hope it will... cause i will use it like that in a project :)
 
 So we can try it together.. ;-)
 May be some more people will take the same trip.
 
 I have.  I got the JBoss MBean kernel to boot with the Sun CVM, but I
 couldn't get anything else to run.  The CVM was very buggy at the time,
 and I have been waiting for a binary release from Sun, which is
 supposed to happen this week.  My goal is to target the high end
 handhelds, but thoes are getting so powerful (400 MHz 256MB) that I
 don't know if we need a 'micro' vm.
 
 -dain
 
 
 
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AW: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Stefan Groschupf
Hi Dain,
My goal is to target the high end handhelds, but thoes are getting so
powerful (400 MHz 256MB)
that I don't know if we need a 'micro' vm.

Thank you for taking the stress and test it. ;-)
You are every time some steps before the main stream.
What you had tried exactly? I'm interested to get the jmx kernel and a
connector running on a j2me CLDC.
You think that should be possible too?

bye
Stefan




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Re: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Dain Sundstrom
When the binary comes out later this week (or next) I would like to 
have a build for it.

-dain

On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 10:13 AM, Holger Baxmann wrote:

my work is more targeted to the small 1..16mbyte devices, like ajile,
ds80400 and ez80. should be possible to port the cvm to this ones.

bax


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On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 06:24 AM, Stefan Groschupf wrote:


Hope it will... cause i will use it like that in a project :)


So we can try it together.. ;-)
May be some more people will take the same trip.


I have.  I got the JBoss MBean kernel to boot with the Sun CVM, but I
couldn't get anything else to run.  The CVM was very buggy at the 
time,
and I have been waiting for a binary release from Sun, which is
supposed to happen this week.  My goal is to target the high end
handhelds, but thoes are getting so powerful (400 MHz 256MB) that I
don't know if we need a 'micro' vm.

-dain



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Re: AW: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 10:37 AM, Stefan Groschupf wrote:


Hi Dain,

My goal is to target the high end handhelds, but thoes are getting so

powerful (400 MHz 256MB)

that I don't know if we need a 'micro' vm.


Thank you for taking the stress and test it. ;-)
You are every time some steps before the main stream.
What you had tried exactly? I'm interested to get the jmx kernel and a
connector running on a j2me CLDC.
You think that should be possible too?


My goal was to have the entire JBoss server on a handheld so I wouldn't 
have to rewrite the core of my business to run it on a handheld.  My 
plan was to use the same web interface and use the handheld browser to 
access the JBossWebserver.

Anyway, I downloaded the CVM source and spent a day getting it to 
compile.  Then I hacked out the missing optional libraries from a JDK, 
and fiddled with the JBoss startup scripts to get it running.  I could 
only get the JMX kernel to boot along with simple services.  Any of the 
interesting stuff cause an out of memory error. I think there is a 
physical memory limit compiled into the vm, or a thread limit.  This 
was about 5-6 months ago, and the VM has improved.  I have been waiting 
for a binary before I'd try it again.

I think that JMX on CLDC is a good fit, but it is not my interest.

Are any of you guys interested in working on a JBossME project?

-dain




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Re: AW: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Lennart Petersson
You bet I am !!!


shhh... don't tell my boss :)

/Lennart

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 Are any of you guys interested in working on a JBossME project?
 
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Re: AW: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Holger Baxmann
 Are any of you guys interested in working on a JBossME project?

just working in this direction - need a secure device for a mobile pki ca/ra
with some java ibuttons. my constraints are:

- no os, no fs
- only jboss 4.0 - weboss kernel
- ca. 100mhz clk
- 1..16mbyte
- headless
- jca arch for driving serveral protocols, tcp will be a special case - the
exception but which will be catched too :-p
- possible to transfer to fpga ip core


bax 
 
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Re: AW: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Dain Sundstrom
That is way smaller then I personally would use, but it is a good 
target. I would like to have a few distros available, headless-small, 
cellphone, and handheld.

-dain

On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 01:56 PM, Holger Baxmann wrote:

Are any of you guys interested in working on a JBossME project?


just working in this direction - need a secure device for a mobile pki 
ca/ra
with some java ibuttons. my constraints are:

- no os, no fs
- only jboss 4.0 - weboss kernel
- ca. 100mhz clk
- 1..16mbyte
- headless
- jca arch for driving serveral protocols, tcp will be a special case 
- the
exception but which will be catched too :-p
- possible to transfer to fpga ip core


bax

-dain




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Re: AW: AW: [JBoss-dev] jboss on j2me?

2002-12-11 Thread Holger Baxmann
because of the 'hard' nature of the hardware [hardware is alive - and
hardware is mad!] i have to contribute the following:

- systronix JStick (ajile aj-100) + development board
- dallas tini; and if they are available tini400
- ez80 development system

all these devices are able to be online - even with tcp ;-)

regarding headless: i think the weboss is at first a what we have called
'server' - but it could be interesting to port the eclipse swt to an
embedded platform.

regarding marketing: the most of alertness in the scene is _not_ to have
another pc like handy nor the smallest possible 100fps doom in your palm.

the embedded people have real problems too: a distributed, scalable,
dynamically reconfigurable, reliable framwork for industrial apps is simply
not available.

place flames about having muX and U**x and VX* here please/

bax

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 That is way smaller then I personally would use, but it is a good
 target. I would like to have a few distros available, headless-small,
 cellphone, and handheld.
 
 -dain
 
 On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 01:56 PM, Holger Baxmann wrote:
 
 Are any of you guys interested in working on a JBossME project?
 
 just working in this direction - need a secure device for a mobile pki
 ca/ra
 with some java ibuttons. my constraints are:
 
 - no os, no fs
 - only jboss 4.0 - weboss kernel
 - ca. 100mhz clk
 - 1..16mbyte
 - headless
 - jca arch for driving serveral protocols, tcp will be a special case
 - the
 exception but which will be catched too :-p
 - possible to transfer to fpga ip core
 
 
 bax
 
 -dain
 
 
 
 
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