RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-04-12 Thread marc fleury
1) POJO pojo = new POJO(); pojo = (POJO)Versioned.makeVersioned(pojo); That is really pretty tho :) You need to define the pojo as aspectable (advisable). or 2) Define a constructor-pointcut on the POJO class (I will implement this today.) nice, marcf Agreed. A remote proxy

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-04-12 Thread marc fleury
] Behalf Of Karthik Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Hi bill, The versioning of POJO is very good. I have some issues here. If I version a object, then I have to maintain all

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-04-12 Thread marc fleury
Digging throught that thread and the bela discussion of cache. There is only one proxy, but you are correct. For each transaction, a full snapshot is taken of the real object. All access to the object is done through one proxy. The point being made was that there is another way to do this

Why the forums suck (Was: Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration)

2003-04-04 Thread Stefan Arentz
On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 18:25 Europe/Amsterdam, Bill Burke wrote: We've been trying hard to keep the development forums as the base of design discussions. There's a lot of good information there. The information there is good, but it is a pain to access the forums. Here are some of the

RE: Why the forums suck (Was: Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration)

2003-04-04 Thread marc fleury
\ What would really help is a forum2email gateway to relay new messages to an email address. I know that begging for features is not allowed here :) so if it an option to add that as a module to the new nukes stuff then I can help out with that. OK :) marcf S.

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-31 Thread Bill Burke
versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Hiram Chirino wrote: That might be a problem if you have a big object graph. You get a big penalty even if you only modify a small peice of the object graph. You could do a shallow copy by getting a snapshot of the fields of the object. Then wrap up

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-28 Thread Stefan Groschupf
Dave Smith: May God Bless America and Java. That is a very humanistic thing that you wish here, but you make a small typo. As a friend of Java you know that Java is in Indonesia and Indonesia is the country with the most Muslims all over the word. So you should better write God Bless America and

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Sacha Labourey
IMPRESSIVE BILL! Congratulations! Not only does this is impressive, but it is ridiculously EASY to use. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: jeudi, 27. mars 2003 01:09 To: Jboss-Dev Subject: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karthik Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Hi bill, The versioning of POJO is very good. I have some

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karthik Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Versioning -- Versioning can be done by Byte code

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Hiram Chirino
: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karthik Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Hi bill, The versioning of POJO is very good. I

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Jeff Haynie
I'm not sure...The problem with Versioning and Remoting is that a proxy object is required. You have to return a different object than the one actually constructed. You getting me? I'm not sure if this can be done within bytecode manipulation. I'll have to ask the Javassist guys. Why?

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Bill Burke
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Bill, If you use versioning on a POJO that is a the top of an object graph, will the children objects also be versions when they are modified??? I assume No. But I think it would make sense for your

Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Stefan Arentz
On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 03:28 Europe/Amsterdam, marc fleury wrote: So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it? bla bla bla bla marc fleury wrote: do you motherfuckers realize how BIG this is? obviously some of you don't get it, give it time, it will become very obvious It would be

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Karthik
, 2003 8:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karthik Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Bill Burke
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration On Thursday, Mar 27, 2003, at 03:28 Europe/Amsterdam, marc fleury wrote: So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it? bla bla bla bla marc fleury wrote: do you motherfuckers realize how BIG

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Karthik
: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration I'm not sure...The problem with Versioning and Remoting is that a proxy object is required. You have to return a different object than the one actually constructed. You getting me? I'm not sure if this can be done within bytecode

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Hiram Chirino
Burke Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff

Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 09:57 AM, Bill Burke wrote: Yes, its a deep copy which is why I require Serializable. new MarshalledObject(obj).get(); Maybe there is a better way to make copies? Yes. I wrote an object copier service for just this type for situation. In CMP the spec requires

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hiram Chirino Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration That might be a problem if you have a big object graph

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread marc fleury
I just want to give credit to Julien Viet as well who pitched that idea when he was in ATL, kudos Bill, you are in orbit, the pings in your head, the code in CVS, let them fight, let's move marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread marc fleury
second revolution, I just can't say how excited I am. We are doing magic, critical mass. Julien goes I got a silly idea.. bill makes it real, there is war.. we are doing RAW stuff, and rarely was I that excited about it all... you ain't seen nothing yet wankers PLgC marcf

Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Dave Smith
Too bad that the whole world is more intretsed whether or not JBOSS will become J2EE certified. I was reading an article about Unintended Consequences that made me think of the current J2EE cerification vs. JBOSS 4.0 with AOP. In 1349 the black plague was spreading around Europe. In castles

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread marc fleury
So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it? bla bla bla bla marc fleury wrote: do you motherfuckers realize how BIG this is? obviously some of you don't get it, give it time, it will become very obvious enough wasted time in the U.N. Time for some good ol' action marcf

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread marc fleury
The story about the flees was pretty good though, but kind of irrelevant :) marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of marc fleury Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned

Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Dave Smith
:rotfl .. a Frenchman wanting action This is hot shit. Plain and simple. Take the J2EE spec and piss all over it. When you wrote it your mind was small and feeble, we have seen the light. The question is how long before the world realizes it or does J2EE implode and we all are paying

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Ben Sabrin
] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jboss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration :rotfl .. a Frenchman wanting action This is hot shit

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Too bad that the whole world is more intretsed whether

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Jeff Haynie
Bill, This is fabulous stuff. Good job. Is there a way we might be able to use the AOP xml to dynamically do your example below (as well as the clustered and remoting) for POJOs during construction time? In other words, could you not have an interceptor on a constructor pointcut that would do

Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Pope Paul V ordered Bellarmine to have the Sacred Congregation of the Index decide on the Copernican theory. The cardinals of the Inquisition met on 24 February 1616 and took evidence from theological experts. They condemned the teachings of Copernicus, and Bellarmine conveyed their decision to

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Pope Paul V ordered Bellarmine to have the Sacred

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Haynie Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration Bill, This is fabulous stuff. Good job. JBoss Remoting

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Jeff Haynie
JBoss Remoting is much more fabulous. We need to get the word out on it... I need to write some darn docs.. Too busy trying to get a new release out on our side. Not enough hours in a day. I totally agree. And yes, a constructor pointcut is the way to go. The only downside of constructor

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Haynie Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration JBoss Remoting is much more fabulous. We need to get

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Karthik
the code from the CVS? Thanks Karthi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration -Original Message

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread Karthik
on the communication layer. Karthik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration -Original Message