Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
] Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular Java based web scripting. mf JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the scripting mf wheel. Let people port to JBoss with existing pages. All I hear

Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Holger Baxmann
Burke Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular Java based web scripting. mf JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the scripting mf wheel

Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Pavel Kolesnikov
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text : TABLETR % for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { % TD%= i %/TD % } % /TR

Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
for me no. I don't like jsp tags. PK On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text : TABLETR % for (int i = 0;i

RE: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Bill Burke
To: Pavel Kolesnikov Subject: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming for me no. I don't like jsp tags. PK On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of JSP is the possibility

Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming for me no. I don't like jsp tags. PK On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text

RE: Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread marc fleury
I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've already done that. there you go then, However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's why I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore. Stop being such a choupette, it is anoying. Where is the can-do attitude?

Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Holger Baxmann
]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text : TABLETR % for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { % TD%= i %/TD % } % /TR /TABLE This is what I want to do

Re: Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Holger Baxmann
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of julien viet Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:36 AM To: Pavel Kolesnikov Subject: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming for me no. I don't like jsp tags. PK On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote: I dont't want to reinvent

Re[11]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread julien viet
I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've already done that. mf there you go then, However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's why I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore. mf Stop being such a choupette, it is anoying. Where is the can-do mf

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Remy Maucherat
julien viet wrote: I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've already done that. JSP compilation is now functional again in Tomcat 4.1.x. I recommend you deploy your production webapps (Nukes, etc) with that and explicit mappings for the JSPs in web.xml. You can see all the

Re: Re[11]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Scott M Stark
. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: julien viet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: Re[11]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I can bend jasper

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Remy Maucherat
Scott M Stark wrote: We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte[] view of classes as far as I know. Its something to look into as another optimization/benefit of embedding the web container into

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Scott M Stark
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming Scott M Stark wrote: We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte[] view of classes as far as I know. Its something to look into as another optimization

Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 04:39 AM, julien viet wrote: I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text : TABLETR % for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { % TD%= i %/TD % } %

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Dain Sundstrom
: Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming Scott M Stark wrote: We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte

Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Scott M Stark
. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: julien viet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming what is supposed

Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Hunter Hillegas
:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular Java based web scripting. mf JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the scripting mf wheel. Let people port to JBoss

RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-31 Thread marc fleury
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular

Re: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-31 Thread Hunter Hillegas
]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the contact info. -dain On Sunday, March 30, 2003

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Jason Dillon
Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. --jason On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet wrote: sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv they added : exceptions,

Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
not sure they will keep php community whith them. for me php success is settled on the fact php scripters don't have to worry about theses kinds of things. JD Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. JD --jason JD On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet

Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Jason Dillon
It is certainly possible, though it does not look like the new features will inhibit PHP folks from coding they way they do now. It just looks like it will allow them to write better software. I spent the past 2 weeks writing a PHP application and over and over I wished for features like

Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
JD It is certainly possible, though it does not look like the new features JD will inhibit PHP folks from coding they way they do now. It just looks JD like it will allow them to write better software. I spent the past 2 JD weeks writing a PHP application and over and over I wished for

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Marcel Ammerlaan
julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way

Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
Hello Marcel, Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis.

RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - deploy it pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that would help. We

Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the contact info. -dain On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote:

RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you

Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
NUKES? JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules? mf marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I

[JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-29 Thread julien viet
have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. it's mono powered. it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have to get more credibility for that. julien

Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-29 Thread julien viet
sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. jv it's mono powered. jv it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have