Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread Scott M Stark
I don't know what JDT is. It was not I who suggested it. The JDT
page says: http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/index.html

 The JDT project provides the tool plug-ins that implement a Java IDE supporting the 
development of any Java application,
including Eclipse plug-ins. It adds a Java project nature and Java perspective to the 
Eclipse Workbench as well as a number of
views, editors, wizards, builders, and code merging and refactoring tools. The JDT 
project allows Eclipse to be a development
environment for itself.

Not obviously an in memory compiler, but maybe in there somewhere.


Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC


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 what is supposed to be eclipse JDT ?

 SMS So get another compiler. We don't need no stinking JSR.




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Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
not sure they will keep php community whith them. for me
php success is settled on the fact php scripters don't have to worry
about theses kinds of things.

JD Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring.  I like it.

JD --jason


JD On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56  PM, julien viet wrote:

 sorry I gave a wrong link :

  http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro


 jv have a look at the new php 5 :  http://talks.php.net

 jv they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, 
 namespaces  and more.
 jv it's mono powered.

 jv it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have
 jv to get more credibility for that.

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Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Jason Dillon
It is certainly possible, though it does not look like the new features 
will inhibit PHP folks from coding they way they do now.  It just looks 
like it will allow them to write better software.  I spent the past 2 
weeks writing a PHP application and over and over I wished for features 
like namespaces, exceptions and proper handling of object references.  
So the changes are welcome in my mind.  But really anything to make PHP 
less like perl and more like Java/.NET is welcome.

Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like 
PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language 
with its rich extensions and apis.

--jason

On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 04:02  PM, julien viet wrote:

not sure they will keep php community whith them. for me
php success is settled on the fact php scripters don't have to worry
about theses kinds of things.
JD Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring.  I like it.

JD --jason

JD On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56  PM, julien viet wrote:

sorry I gave a wrong link :

 http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro

jv have a look at the new php 5 :  http://talks.php.net

jv they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract,
namespaces  and more.
jv it's mono powered.
jv it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have
jv to get more credibility for that.
jv julien



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Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread julien viet
Hello Marcel,

Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote:

MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like 
 JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language 
 JD with its rich extensions and apis.
 
 we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished
 having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with
 a java compiler written in java and taking class def from
 a classloader.
 
 That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great
 for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified
 to achieve such results though I don't know about its license.

MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting Cocoon to work
MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively
MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are resources
MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at:

cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e
get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - deploy it

pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we
can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but
that would help.

MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/

MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and extension
MA classes needed to use it at: http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip

MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines to keep it
MA simple and self hosting.

MA Hope this helps.

MA Regards,

MA Marcel Ammerlaan



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RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
 cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, 
 i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - 
 generate xmbeam - deploy it
 
 pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if 
 we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but 
 that would help.

We need JSP like scripting for NUKES, otherwise it will be very
difficult to write advanced stuff in it.  

Let's take the forums to drive it. 

marcf




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Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were 
interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on 
some other stuff.  If anyone is interested in this I can send you the 
contact info.

-dain

On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote:

Hello Marcel,

Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote:

MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was 
more like
JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development 
language
JD with its rich extensions and apis.

we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished
having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with
a java compiler written in java and taking class def from
a classloader.
That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great
for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be 
modified
to achieve such results though I don't know about its license.
MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting Cocoon to work
MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively
MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are 
resources
MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at:

cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e
get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - 
deploy it

pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we
can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but
that would help.
MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/

MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and 
extension
MA classes needed to use it at: 
http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip

MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines to keep it
MA simple and self hosting.
MA Hope this helps.

MA Regards,

MA Marcel Ammerlaan



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RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
julien, 

why don't you try to bring some of these guys in to do the compiler for
NUKES?  JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules?

marcf

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 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
 
 
 I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were 
 interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and 
 got busy on 
 some other stuff.  If anyone is interested in this I can send you the 
 contact info.
 
 -dain
 
 On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote:
 
  Hello Marcel,
 
  Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote:
 
  MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was
  more like
  JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development
  language
  JD with its rich extensions and apis.
 
  we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished
  having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with
  a java compiler written in java and taking class def from
  a classloader.
 
  That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would 
 be great for 
  nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified
  to achieve such results though I don't know about its license.
 
  MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting 
 Cocoon to work 
  MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively 
  MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are
  resources
  MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at:
 
  cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get 
  code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - 
  deploy it
 
  pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can 
  have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that 
 would help.
 
  MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/
 
  MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and
  extension
  MA classes needed to use it at:
  http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip
 
  MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines 
 to keep it 
  MA simple and self hosting.
 
  MA Hope this helps.
 
  MA Regards,
 
  MA Marcel Ammerlaan
 
 
 
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