[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Unit test succeeds but process does not properly run whe

2009-10-06 Thread kukeltje
If the unit tests run, it means the processdefinition is ok, your usage of the api is ok, your expectation of what the engine does is ok, the way the testbaseclasses use the engine etc are ok, but it does not mean and I do not want to do any fingerpointing whatsoever, that the console uses the a

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: How to get history variables and processInstanceId from

2009-10-06 Thread kukeltje
Guys (Girls?)... The history functionality, including the api are not fully matured yet. That is what the jira issues are about. Keep a close eye on check-ins related to those, try them out as early ass possible and comment then. Helping out is also appreciated (if you take a look at the source,

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 - execution not waiting for Task Form inputs

2009-10-06 Thread kukeltje
Correct, since your unittest ends (how can the test know it has to wait for something. If you e.g. build in a Thread.sleep(1000) loop endlessly and check in the loop if the task has ended (do a break then) it could work. That is *not* the way unittests are *normally* used though. The user is

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: JBPM4 and JBoss5 and JEE

2009-10-06 Thread kukeltje
Or help out developing ;-) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258819#4258819 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4258819 ___ jboss-user mailing list jbos

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Starting process instance by key

2009-10-05 Thread kukeltje
According to the docs it *should* be unique, so in that case the only thing missing according to you is a unique constraint on the database. Personally, I make the key unique myself by using it in a 'compound' way. I used a license plate number, followed by a colon and a date (assuming two ins

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: authentication failed while JBPM console login

2009-10-05 Thread kukeltje
Yes, if this does not work, "something" is wrong. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258758#4258758 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4258758 ___ jbos

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 : Running jbpm test case - issue

2009-10-05 Thread kukeltje
Yes, that is the line that 'cause the error' but the real error is that your parser does not understand it. So maybe you are not aware of some other parser but afaik, if a specific xml parser is loaded via jaxp, that will be used by other applications as well. The Aefred parser is not a default

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: JBPM4 and JBoss5 and JEE

2009-10-05 Thread kukeltje
Nope, at least not yet. Searching the jira helps btw this time (due to my own curiosity) I did it for you. https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2203 https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2412 View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258753#425

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm4.1 process project

2009-10-03 Thread kukeltje
Is it is a latitude where it is always summertime? Then I don't envy you :-) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258552#4258552 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4258552 __

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: [jBPM4] Problem retrieving activities from history

2009-10-02 Thread kukeltje
As mentioned in several other posts and a jira issue, the history is not fullly enabled yet. Vote for the jira issue and refer to this post there. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258412#4258412 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.h

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Rolling back to a previous state in jBPM 3.3.2.GA

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
there is no 3.3.2.GA, and rollback functionality is not there natively since it is very dependent on the business side of things. The times I implemented 'rollback' functionality I explicitly modeled it in the process. Like you would when e.g. sending a correcting invoice. You do not retract the

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm4.1 process project

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
you can also add al these config files in a jar and add that to the library as well. Or put them in a directory and add that to the library (that's what I did) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258297#4258297 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Problem with the VacationRequest example

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
DUHH why do post get visible delayed... I though one of my posts disappeared Sigh View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258239#4258239 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4258239

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Problem with the VacationRequest example

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
Is there a jira issue for this? If so, you can see the target for it being fixed (might also be empty though). If there is no jira issue, it is not on the list for being fixed in the near future. Please file an issue in that case. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Problem with the VacationRequest example

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
look in the jira for an issue. That will tell you when it will be fixed. If there is no issue reported please do View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258236#4258236 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 : Running jbpm test case - issue

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
Do you use a custom xml parser (Aelfred) ? Or a specific JDK or View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258229#4258229 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4258229 ___

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: [jBPM4] TaskForm Variables

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
No, not from what I've seen in the code. Reusing taskforms in multiple tasks and displaying the taskname sounds like a nice 'enhancement'. Please file a Jira issue for this. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258226#4258226 Reply to the post : h

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: cannot be cast to org.jbpm.graph.def.ActionHandler

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
Read carefully... he had another implementation of a class with the same package and classname but that did not implement the correct interface. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258132#4258132 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Translation of task node from jBPM3 to 4

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
tasks are never associated with a state. Tasks are now just 'simple' tasks, not 'complex' tasks anymore (the task has been 'promoted' to the level of the former task-node. That might be explicitly missing in the docs, I won't deny that. But What you describe is not a 'simple' scenario, it is a

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: [jBPM4] TaskForm Variables

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
afaik, there are none, butr I'm not 100% sure. If you want to be sure, look at the console code and see what jBPM api calls are used. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4258124#4258124 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: hibernate.cfg.xml not found

2009-10-01 Thread kukeltje
You cannot put individual files on the classpath, only archives (zip, jar) and directories. Change /home/config/hibernate.cfg.xml to /home/config And regarding 3.1.1, there also is a 3.1.4 and even that is 'old'. When starting a new project (as you seem to do since it has not run in production)

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: superstate timer error

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
Sounds like the wrong behaviour, but that might be a configuration issue as well e.g. two jobexecutors View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257994#4257994 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=425799

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
hmm... JBPM-2537 is targeted at 4.3, I saw you added your vote to it. Great now gather others to do the same to increase the chance of it getting fixed quicker -;) I'm not sure what the default behaviour in jBPM 3 is, if that is to end (cancel) the task, the same should happen here, without hav

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
hmm... might be that the 'waitíng' on dependent services only takes place when the jboss-service.xml is used and not the jboss-beans.xml. I'll try to look into this a little further. Putting things in the jboss-service.xml might be an option, but I cannot find a replacement for the property/i

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
oops, sorry, I now only re-read your first line that you tried it in the 'correct' order as well. Same error then? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257973#4257973 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=rep

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
You have the content of the depends tag in a different order then what I posted. Might make a big difference. Can you give that a try? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257972#4257972 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=b

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
Thanks and sorry... while I was reading your jira issue I DID find the other one (not sure why it did not show up earlier) https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2537 So I'll close yours as a duplicate. Again, sorry View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=vie

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
ouch sorry typo jboss.jca:service=DataSourceBinding,name=JbpmDS or with the java:/ in front This is done in the ESB which is certified on JBoss AS 4.2.3 so it should work. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257947#4257947 Reply to the post :

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
and adding something like: [codejboss.jca:service=DataSourceBinding,name=java:/JbpmDS View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257945#4257945 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257945

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
Adding a JbpmDS to the JbpmService in jboss-beans.xml did not work? I'll ask some others(have no option to try myself) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257944#4257944 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posti

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Installation issues with jBPM 4.0.CR1 on JBoss AS 4.2.3.

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
What error? Instead of removing the service, I'd say try to add a dependency on JbpmDS as mentioned in my other post. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257922#4257922 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: hibernate.cfg.xml not found

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
jbpm 3.1.1? If it works in dev, but not production, I'd look into the differences between those first View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257920#4257920 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=425792

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
I'm no jboss service /.sar specialist, but afaik, it should wait until the datasource is deployed. At least is does this for JBoss AS 5 in distro/src/main/files/install/src/jboss/config.jboss5/deploy/jbpm/jbpm-service.sar/jbpm-service-jboss-beans.xml for 4 in distro/src/main/files/install/src

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: hibernate.cfg.xml not found

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
It should be on the classpath. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257903#4257903 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257903 ___ jboss-user mailing list

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: JBPM4.1, JBoss 4.23 and Seam 2.2.0

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
1: Depends on what you mean by 'integrate'. What are you trying to achieve. 2: Sounds like a warning from hibernate/jpa. You might have more luck asking (also) there. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257901#4257901 Reply to the post : http://w

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Invoking JBPM by Http requests/Adding Http Listerner to

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
An interesting read in this regard is: http://groups.google.com/group/rest-bpm/web/submission-1-rest--workflow-bpm Not sure what comes out of this... View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257899#4257899 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/inde

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
Hmmm I thought I already responded. To me it is a bug, but others might think not so (not sure what their arguments would be). please file a jira issue, I do not seem to be able to find one View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257894#4257894 Reply

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM4.1 - Spring 2.5.x - transactionManagement questions

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
To create transaction 'boundaries', use 'async' on the activities. That makes them run in a separate transaction from the main process. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257834#4257834 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=b

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Translation of task node from jBPM3 to 4

2009-09-30 Thread kukeltje
Yes, use a plain fork-join for this. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257827#4257827 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257827 ___ jboss-user mailin

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: org.jbpm.persistence.db.DbPersistenceService commit

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
You are probably posting the rest now, but try with the latest 3.2.6SPx first View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257691#4257691 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257691 _

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
with or without the java: prefix? And what about the name in the config file? Does that contain the prefix or not? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257677#4257677 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=rep

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Translation of task node from jBPM3 to 4

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
no there is not. And not sure if it will return as it was or whether alternative ways (more bpmn like) will be implemented. What is the behaviour you need? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257650#4257650 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.o

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Violation of unique constraint with two splits (JBPM-255

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
ok, now the pd looks correct. Can you make a full unitest like described in my post in http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=158610 So we can see in what step it fails, use that to (probably) fix the problem. Can you also provide debug logs for the accompanying test? If you

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: How to stop a process instance

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
Do you have a unittest that I can run? You do not demonstrate where you want to end the process instance. And what doe you mean by 'over-complicated'? Nothing from your post points to something that is complicated, let alone over-complicated. It might be a bug, yes, but over-complicated it is n

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Jbmp task recovery

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
But do this IN your NEW command, not using one of 'ours' and do filtering afterwards. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257622#4257622 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257622 ___

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: org.jbpm.persistence.db.DbPersistenceService commit

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
Sebastian is partly right, for the full meaning of my 'great' look at http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=158610 View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257621#4257621 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Jbmp task recovery

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
yes look at the query api's View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257619#4257619 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257619 ___ jboss-user mailing list jbo

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 - Task assignment

2009-09-29 Thread kukeltje
- Yes - Yes, but you might need other changes as well if there have been core/console related enhancements (check the jira, but even that is not always a guarantee) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257618#4257618 Reply to the post : http://www.

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: superstate timer error

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
Your last two remarks are not jBPM specific. jBPM 3 uses EJB timers by default and they use the DefaultDS since they are not jbpm specifc. (you need a DefaultDS to for JMS etc... Not sure though if this has changed in 3.2(.7) trunk. And there have been some other changes regarding db stuff in

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Showing the process diagram in my own application

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
What the 3 console does (and I in my JSF console) is draw the rectangles in DHTML, so the image stays the same. Nice thing about that is that you can also display other details of a node on e.g. mouse-over etc. I'm not sure how the GWT console for 4 does this btw, might be like you do it or lik

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Long-running tasks and async continuation

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
They are considered 'async' by default. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257465#4257465 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257465 ___ jboss-user mail

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Jbmp task recovery

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
create your own command? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257464#4257464 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257464 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 installation problems on jboss 4.2.3

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
is the ds deployed at all? Can you check via the AS console? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257463#4257463 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257463 __

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Showing the process diagram in my own application

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
Have a look at the sourcecode of the console or the jbpm testcase on how this is done (have no time to do that myself) things like 'grep -R getResourceAsStream |grep -v target |grep -v svn' work amazingly well if you do not have an ide at hand) I also found processDefinition.getImageResourceNa

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
ok, and I only now see there are 3 identical timers on the transition. Can you remove those and also turn up the loglevel when running the unittest. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257457#4257457 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
might be because the process is actually already ended Can you check? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257316#4257316 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257316

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Showing the process diagram in my own application

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
getResourceAsStream (like you normally would loading an image from a classpath ;-)) om the RepositoryService. You just have to know the name of the image as it was deployed in the process archive. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257309#4257

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: How to make automatic funtional testing for a wokflow We

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
anonymous wrote : But for a wokflow Web Application, it's exhausted to set pre-conditions from state_n to state_n+1. Can you elaborate... I miss the difference with normal webapps How/when do you set preconditions, and why do you think this is not possible with workflow (framework) based appli

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Violation of unique constraint with two splits (JBPM-255

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
fork/join pairs have to be fully nested. Task 1 is used in both fork1 and fork 2 at the same time. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257289#4257289 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257289 __

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: JBpm 4.1 and Tomcat

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
Search the forum. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257244#4257244 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257244 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-use

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
there was a change in the businesscalendar config afaik between 4.0, and 4.1 (or was it towards 4.2, not fully sure). Did you change versions? If so, search the jira for the related task and see if it is the possible cause. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=v

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: superstate timer error

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
3.3.0 == 3.2.5, 3.3.1 == 3.2.6. Have you tried the latest version already (keep in mind that the 3.3 branch was dropped) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257242#4257242 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mo

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Showing the process diagram in my own application

2009-09-28 Thread kukeltje
it is read from the processdefinition xml file itself. Which task is active is based on the name. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257241#4257241 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257241 ___

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM 4 - Process Classloading question

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
unfortunately there is no way other then e.g. repackaging your classes per version and using that package name in the processdefinition. (if someone else has another creative solution, please post it here) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257104

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: [jBPM4] Service Invocation

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
There eventually will be. The jBPM side of things is kind of identical to what is in 3, but the ESB side for the async callback needs to change. For the moment it is indeed something that can/needs to be done in a custom node View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
Yes I think you do need that. Would be nice if you made a unit test first to test if that really works. I think it does, but not completely sure. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257102#4257102 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.htm

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 - Task assignment

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
Funny, that many people are afraid of using trunk when all unit test are green, but do want to take a chance (and put (a lot of ) effort in it) to get an official release, try to find patches/diffs which might depend on other things solved (or not) and user that. But that is up to ecerybody else

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Error while deleting in jbpm 4

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
please try 4.1 first and search the jira if there are/were any issues regarding deleting things (I think there are/were) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257073#4257073 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mo

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
oh, in addition, in 4 the tasks remains open, also not what you want I think. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257066#4257066 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257066

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
"The European guy" wrote : I managed to use a timer to make the engine take a timeout transition after some time. My question here: If you make the engine take the transition like this is the previous task completed? Or is this the wrong approach and I should just change the assignment of the ta

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Task descriptions not possible?

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
I have to take my previous comment back. I thought one was for the xsd, one for parsing. I'll only pick up one for the xsd/parsing (the GPD is not my cup of tea). View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257046#4257046 Reply to the post : http://www

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: org.jbpm.persistence.db.DbPersistenceService commit

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
Great View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257044#4257044 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257044 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@lists.jbos

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Implementing Escalation in jBPM 4.1

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
One day late, and afternoon already since this response required a little digging for me :-) In theory you are right, escalating is a basic BPM-thing In practical situations howeever, escalation differs from company to company, department to department etc... and if you have a look at http:/

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 - Task assignment

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
But keep in mind that this is my personal opinion, not one of the jBPM team. I did it several times with different projects and it saved a lot of time patching and stuff... BUT always go over the jira issues (open and closed) since it might be that a 'nightly' version can run when used in

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM stops processing

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
No idea since you posted only a very small part of what is normally expected to be posted, http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=158610 we do not know what you do. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257014#4257014 Reply to t

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jbpm 4.1 - Task assignment

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
And you can always use the latest source from trunk, run all tests, do a functionality test on your application and if it works, just use that. Why not? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257013#4257013 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/i

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Migrating custom workflow to jbpm

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
jBPM3? or 4? You can put the execution (4) or token (3) in a specific node. There are no real best practices for this since every situation is different View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257012#4257012 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Start time of process instances

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
Correct, from where we are now, it is something for the dev forum. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4257010#4257010 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4257010

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Task descriptions not possible?

2009-09-25 Thread kukeltje
I'll pick these two issues up myself since I need them to in the not so distant future. Regarding specifying it, no it does not get picked up (from what I have seen) so it should be 'parsed' as well. This is not difficult, just adding a few lines in JpdlParser.java View the original post : h

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Task descriptions not possible?

2009-09-24 Thread kukeltje
Sounds like an omission in the xsd. But it could also be that the parser does not read it (yet) even if you set it in the jpdl file (I checked the source and afaics it does get parsed. So please file a jira issue for the combined issue View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?m

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM stops processing

2009-09-24 Thread kukeltje
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2375 View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256869#4256869 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256869 ___ jboss-user

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: JBPM4 (with Spring beans) deployment into JBOSS

2009-09-24 Thread kukeltje
The 4.1 docs are also online now View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256865#4256865 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256865 ___ jboss-user mailing

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM 4.1 - Spring Problem

2009-09-24 Thread kukeltje
Nils, This clearly is related to the xml parser that is used. There has been a previous post in this area in the forum afaik. Please try to find that article and see if it solves your problem as well (it is not jBPM related) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM4 and JBoss IDM

2009-09-24 Thread kukeltje
Jeff, Something went missing in your post in step 4 Ronald View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256856#4256856 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256856 __

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM stops processing

2009-09-24 Thread kukeltje
PLEASE. read the first and sticky post in this forum and especially act upon the 'searching' thing. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256853#4256853 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=42

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: startProcessInstanceByKey causing a

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
when 4.2 is released can be seen in the roadmap in the wiki (and maybe in the jira) so please have a look there. Workarounds: - use a different database - implement a custom id generator yourself - don't restart things :-) (just kidding ofcourse) View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Start time of process instances

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
ok, thanks for clarifying this. If you can see in the source that the methods are in fact missing (or e.g. private) please file a jira issue since I think they should be there. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256757#4256757 Reply to the post :

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Start time of process instances

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
Sebastian, There are a small number of situations where the hibernate config in relation to the getters and setters in the related classes are not fully correct. This might also be one of those situations. So when reading the info back from the database, not everything is 'set'. I have no acce

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Problems with process definition: JpdlProcessDefinition

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
This is a clear description, thanks. If the same is true for 4.1, please just file a jira issue. Solutions come after that. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256603#4256603 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posti

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Where's all the Documentation gone?

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
Yep, same here (and the relocation as you mention is old... the redirect was kind of automatic) I notified some people Looks like the '.0' is removed. http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/v4/userguide/html_single/ works View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Where's all the Documentation gone?

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
works here no problems... View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256583#4256583 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256583 ___ jboss-user mailing list j

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: PVM release

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
Maven files are called pom.xml and surprise surprise it is in modules/pvm View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256568#4256568 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256568

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Problems with process definition: JpdlProcessDefinition

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
Well, I was sure I'd seen the same error before, but indeed not in the jira, but in the forum: http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4253641#4253641 http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/jbpm-dev/2009-August/003121.html Obviously, no solution yet, but if with loops you mean recurs

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: PVM release

2009-09-23 Thread kukeltje
you do not have to 'strip out' the pvm. In the source it is a (maven) module and you can build it separately very easily. Not sure why the choice was made to put it under the same project, but it does not lead to big problems afaik. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?modul

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Problems with process definition: JpdlProcessDefinition

2009-09-22 Thread kukeltje
afaik, there is a jira issue about this same error and it might or not ;-)) even be fixed in the svn View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256506#4256506 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256506

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM 4.1 HistoryDetail records not being created for tas

2009-09-22 Thread kukeltje
Exact? No, probably not, but: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2389 https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2442 Will make up for it, won't it? and maybe: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2416 And yes, you might consider this 'incomplete'... Contributions are welcomed ;-) V

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Fire a rule from jbpm4 process

2009-09-22 Thread kukeltje
the equivalent way is converting the jBPM 3 delegation class to a jBPM 4 one as described in my previous post. Most of it stays the same. why don't you give it a try and get back with more detailed questions/problems when you encounter them View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Fire a rule from jbpm4 process

2009-09-22 Thread kukeltje
The basics are not different for 4, just use jBPM 4 delegation classes instead of those for 3. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256322#4256322 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256322 ___

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: jBPM 4.1 HistoryDetail records not being created for tas

2009-09-21 Thread kukeltje
known 'issue'. Search the forum and jira... View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256277#4256277 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256277 ___ jboss-user

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Can JBPM manages more than one datasource?

2009-09-21 Thread kukeltje
this should work. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4256192#4256192 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4256192 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@li

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