swatis is right, and you can always cancel parallel task with actionhandlers.
Look at
http://planetjbpm.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/implementing-milestones-in-jbpm/ for
examples
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have you looked at any api? Your question is so generic that my first answer
would be 'yes'
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nope, not even the second time : -)
Use [ c o d e ] [ / c o d e ] tags around it, without the spaces.
Ont small thing though. If it is not to much trouble, the example I referred to
had everyting in one file. The processdefinition as a string and the
actionhandlers as inner classes. That way I
ah, sorry, I missed the thrid time :-)
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oh, and one more thing, it would be nice if you could reduce the test to a
minimal one. Just showing this one issue.
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do you have the gpd.xml file as well? I cannot get it layed-out nicely
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Ok, one initial remark. A fork should always have *one* corresponding join. ALL
tokens that start in a fork should have one common join as the first join they
can encounter!
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hmm... strange... then you should have no visual layout... well, I already got
'something' that looks kind of useful.
You should really look into your fork.join constructs. Most are not correct.
Things like having one transition of a fork going to the node before (propose
adjustments) is not
1: yes afaik
2: use the taskservice, at least for the 'human' tasks
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It's not that it won't work what you try, but you e.g. should end tasks when
there are tasks, not signal tokens in tasknodes.
And where does it go wrong in your test? I get the
junit.framework.ComparisonFailure: propose should be at join1
expected:[join1] but was:[auto-signoff-adj]
That
anonymous wrote : Your help has been invaluable.
I know ;-)
Need some contractors? hahaha
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well, since you are part of the jBPM 'community', and you confirmed it works
when changing 0 to 1, you might file a Jira issue. That is the way the 'jBPM
group' is notified and take action. When that is done, I'll be more than happy
to update the release notes.
One question though. Jobs that
Should work. Can you make a unittest that demonstrates the problem? Please make
the unittest like:
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The 4.0 CR1 designer is part of the normal release: jbpm-4.0.CR1.zip
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yes, that is what fully contained/nested means
Regarding do's/dont's, this is the most important one, together with 'do not
loop for polling the existence of a file' kind of things.
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If you manually signal tokens, a non fully nested fork/join might work, but
that behaviour is not guaranteed to stay/be the same over versions.
What do you mean by 'how task signalling works'? You end a task and the token
continues if the other attributes on the task node allow it to. By
if you have the unittest, please post it. Then I can see what you do instead of
guessing or reading text ;-)
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First of all (without wanting to offend you) you are the one that should
provide more info, at least next time. If tou saw the jira issue, you should
have mentioned that. Would have saved *me* 15 minutes.
Secondly, CR1 is *newer* than beta2 as you could also make up from the jira
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No, works with db persistency as well. Look at the docs for the jpdl attributes
and/or look at the unittests in the source
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create an event-handler on the process-end event (or cancel, please check
that). From the action in the event-handler, you can do anything you can do in
Java. You could e.g. create a token, put that in a totally independent esb node
and have that node do something.
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BUT TRY IT IN A TEST SYSTEM FIRST And use it at your own risk, I'm just a
;-)
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The db migration script is from the moment that 3.2 GA became available. Might
be that between 3.2 GA and 3.2.3 something changed in the jBPM code that makes
it unusable as it is.
From the code (I assume you analysed that to) I see inital jobs get retries=1
and the select statement does
New questions in new topics please with correct subjects so everything is
relevant
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Please use some form of search functionality before posting like google or the
sear of this forum
Hint: probably has something to do with the deployment order
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What is creating new nodes and how do you do that
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please make a unittest like this that demonstrates the problem. with your
action as an inner class as in the example.
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normally, if you specify a transition on a timer, the node is 'left' and that
task automatically ended. So doing this in an actionhandler is not needed nor
advised (at least not in a tasknode)
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where does spring come in? any chance you have multiple jBPM jars? Looks like a
classloader problem
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what are you trying to achieve with alpha 2? Please try beta2 and the latest
userguide and /or devguide.
Depending on what you want to achieve, could be that you want to use the
ProcessDefinitionBuilder
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For testing that is good, but I cannot imagine that reducing it to 2 seconds
solves the underlying problem.
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could you turn on the trace level of org.jbpm.pvm.util.ReflectUtil and
org.jbpm.jpdl.xml.BindingParser to see what the output is?
Did you upgrade from a previous version that *did* work?
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Nothing in google?
http://www.google.nl/search?q=jbpm+subprocess+deployment+null
The *first* hit mentiones all!!! even the binding=late
I would be very surprised if it is a (re-introduced) bug since there are lots
of testcases for this and many users using 3.2.6SP1 and nobody seems to have
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2305
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jBPM uses an issue registration system called Jira, you might have heard of it.
Looking there before posting is a good habit:
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/GPD-320
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search for how to start the jobexecutor you'll find all info then.
If you look in the source for testcases for this class you can see how it can
be used in JSE apps.
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1: maybe because the db is different?
2: Everything on SF should be regarded as out-of-date I think. There indeed was
an issue which was fixed in newer 3.2.x releases (afaik)
3: I've heard something like this before. Not realy sure, but it might require
manual changes to those values.
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sorry, part fell off... use the context.getTaskManagementInstance()
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First of all, your code will probably never be 100% independent of the process
and in reality it never caused big problems for me.
You can not, unfortunately, create kind of static variables in jBPM 3. But for
assignmenthandlers, just like with actionhandlers, you can pass in data like
Jeff,
jBPM 3 'clustering' questions have been posted in the forum several times. I
suggest to try to read those first. Basically it boils down to jBPM using the
DB as the place where everything is stored. That DB can be accessed from
multiple jBPM 'instances' so
Oh.. and google is your
if there is a token in a fork do not signal it. The child tokens are created in
the jbpm fork 'implementation' as you might have expected. How to get the
childtokens? Have you had a look at the api? (using an IDE with code completion
also works ;-)) Tokens have names related to the path
View
Yes, by using the api
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anonymous wrote : Is that right ?
Yes
anonymous wrote : You also recommend custom AssignmentHanlders to react to some
passed variable in order to find which user the task should be assigned to. How
exactly would one pass such variable to the AssignmentHanlder ?
Well, it is not a real
For jBPM 4, the same rules apply as for jBPM 3. Basics have not changed that
much.
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If you make good unittests, you can run those in tools that support using
unittests for doing stresstest. For the rest the differences on how to strees
test jBPM (the core!) is not that different from how you would test other
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Of course it is working :-P it was designed by Tom et al to work that way, so
it's not even my idea.
Still, better plugability would have been nice, so you could configure the
engine to use a certain IAM solution instead of augmenting each
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Hmm... I'm almost sure I had this working. I used the name 'initiator' though
for the swimlane. On the one hand I cannot imagine this is required, but it
probably is easy to give it a try.
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You have to differentiate between 3.2.6 and 3.2.6. The latter (mainly) has the
suite which contains everything, including a JBoss AS, can be just unzipped and
used.
The 3.2.6 has an installer. But again *nothing* has to be installed in the jbpm
install dir. If you have a standalone JBoss AS,
3.2.6 is *not supported* 3.3.x was dropped for several reasons (search the
forum for the specifics)
I just gave 3.2.6SP1, freshly downloaded from sourceforge a try and it does not
download JBoss AS if the optional component is not selected
But indeed, if you select download JBoss AS 5.0.0, it
What is the relation between blah, 12 and where do you use the expression?
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what is the value of tr? is it 'null' by accident?
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Ok, here is another quick reply ;-)
Well, you are kind of there, but not completely. I have to admit, the area of
extending/overriding the identitycomponent and/or the
ExpressionAssignmentHandler is/was kind of not really flexible and certainly
not realy documented well.
I think the
I'm curious to what the added value of doing the following is
taskInstance =jbpmContext.getTaskInstance(taskInstance.getID());
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anonymous wrote : Thanks again Ronald, :)
Now can you imagine that some people think I'm rude? ;-)
anonymous wrote : 'cause as I looked at the jBPM's source code, I saw that use
of the identity ExpressionAssignmentHandler is hardcoded in the
readAssignmentDelegation function of JpdlXmlReader
can you try
| taskInstance.end(tr.getName())
|
and see if it makes a difference?
Secondly, make a *full* unittest with *everything* embedded (the
processdefinition as a string) so I can test it?
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can you try
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and see if it makes a difference? (I doubt it but nevertheless)
And set the debug level for the TaskInstance class.
If that does not result in anything, make a *full* unittest with *everything*
embedded (the processdefinition as a string)
correct. afaik, the 'value' can only contain Strings, or the likes, no maps,
lists etc...
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frinux wrote : It doesn't make any difference (I already tried before).
|
| When debugging, I get the followinf messages (allthough not debug but WARN
messages...ð:
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| WARN ProxyWarnLog:638 - Narrowing proxy to class
org.jbpm.graph.node.TaskNode - this operation breaks ==
| |
frinux wrote : All I see in the debug is that jBPM is taking the wrong
transition. No error.
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| Here is the interesting part of the log :
|
| GraphElement:180 - event 'node-leave on 'TaskNode(valider_demande)' for
'Token(/)'
| | GraphElement:180 - event 'transition' on
depends on how you deployed the jbpm jar as well. If that is global then there
should be no problem. If that is in a war and the common.jar is global then
there is a problem (not jbpm related btw, but generic classloading)
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Yes, you are 'misinterpreting' the docs. You can pass in maps, collections etc,
but each value can only be a simple type (String, Integer etc, but no map,
list, collection)
You *can* pass in arbitrary complex XML structures that will be converted to
Document if you use that as the type in your
your definition is wrong, you need a task-node around the task, assuming you
are using jbpm 3
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anonymous wrote : I found a way though, but I can't make it work.
That is cool. You found a way but cannot make it work. IMO you did not find a
way then, at least not yet ;-)
Not sure but it might be related to some hibernate deepcloning stuff. Never
tried this, so I'm not sure.
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why 'quite emergency' You can use it separately from other tooling. You do not
ask e.g. Tibco to develop a netbeans based developer ui either? I do not see
the 'problem´
Regarding the Nuxeo question, you most likely get a better/quicker answer in
their forum. Afaik you can use the definitions
Personally, (I like netbeans to) I'd hope that there will *not* be two efforts
(not even a community one) just for the sake of having almost the same
functionality in netbeans as there is in eclipse (jpdl wise). Just like I said,
we could develop applications for Tibco Process Engine with their
google is your friend
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you should use 3.2.6. Search the forum on why 3.3.0 was 'dropped'
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what do you mean by 'it's not the same field'?
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uhmmm change the filepermission back?
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I do not see anything wrong with this...
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if you consider marshalling it to e.g. a string, or writing a hibernate mapping
a solution, there is. Otherwise I think not (but I'lm no java expert)
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Yes, I understood what you 'want' but that is not easy. What I tried to say is:
- leave the intial process running
- create a task that 'rests' all kinds of values and e.g. call it 'reset'
- this creates a log entry that you can always trace (it's like the 'end' of
the process, but not a real
you have to open-up the forms yourself if you do not use the console
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Primitives can not (afaik) be retrieved via reflection and that is what jBPM
uses. So I think it is not possible
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what is the advantage of cloning? You can always modify all values and still
have a history log that shows what happened. imo much easier.If you create an
adhoc task in the process, that is executed at that moment, you have a specific
entry in the log that everything is reset.
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Not if you store serialized classes afaik. But I never did/try that (partly
because of these kinds of dificulties)
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But this isn't specifically a jBPM problem/issue right? At least I remember
this same issue from a project long time ago. Either use your own marshalling,
hibernate mapping or whatever
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You said you knew the tutorial.Look at the example there... If you do not see
how how the start-distribution on the process-overwrite attribute points to
the name attribute on the distribution element which in turn has a mean and
std, I'm not able to help any further.
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thanks for reporting back...
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I wish you all the best
http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#homework
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You are welcome, and good luck. Please let us now the results of your
experiences with simulation. Many will be interested, at least I am (did not
find enough time to experiment more with this)
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I assume you are familiar with
http://www.camunda.com/jbpm_simulation/jbpm_simulation_tutorial.html
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I would suggest you learn/read some basic jBPM stuff about actionhandlers on
nodes first.
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But that article does answer your questions afaict
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Sujatha,
The basic documentation shows these things. See
http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/v3.2/userguide/html/processmodelling.html, so I was
not really harsh (imo), just referred you to documentation. If you already read
this and not understood my 'directions' then I'm sorry. Hopefully you'll
Absence of 'proof' is not always proof of absence but in this case it is
- The GPD does not play any role in this (it is not mentioned anywhere in the
simulation docs)
- The simulationdata is in a separate file (so it is not IN the process)
So imo your questions are answered. If you need more
Ofcourse things could be changed (putting the simulation data in the same file)
but that requires time and effort.
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Sarish,
You might be right in your conclusion. Can you check if the small fix you
propose in the jBPM FildeDefinition.java fixes it for you?
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Great, now we are getting somewhere :-D.
Yes you can
distribution name=ReturnDefectiveGoods.ReturnDefectiveGoods
| sample-type=real type=erlang mean=94.3247
standardDeviation=52.8106/
does this and is referred to from
sim-process path=/ReturnDefectiveGoods/processdefinition.xml
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it's java
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not out of the box, develop your own mailnode code for that which can support
mime attachments
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looks like a problem with your datasource/connectionpool and not jBPM related.
Connections seem to be 'partially' closed, so try to finda solution in that
direction
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jBPM 4 GA is planned for July 1st, so that is an additional month ;-)
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lucene/jackrabbit were/are for JCR (JSR-168) compliant storage options. Not
used by a lot of people.
The other 2 I do not no by heart (and no time to find out for you now)
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Ok, if you already have a JBoss AS5 installation, you do not need to select
that in the installer. Just point to the correct AS dir and everything will be
installed there automagically. You only need to change files then in the AS
subdirs, nothing more in the install dir
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it's partially closed if one end thinks it is still open and the other end
doesn't. The dbms can be still up, opening a fully new connection works and
even other connectionpools, e.g. configured differently might still work. All
basic JEE stuff.
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jira still says it is july 1st and jira is always right :-D
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global actions yes, just put them on the top level, but you cannot have them be
executed for every event that is thrown
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anonymous wrote : The issue is timers are not executed simultaneously by the
scheduler i have jobexecutor servlet entry in web.xml i am using tomcat server.
That's because they are two non-related timers. And before you ask the next
question, you cannot have them be executed at the same time
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