[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-13 Thread mzeijen
My timezone is CET and Tom's his Timezone is CET-1 View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4217877#4217877 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4217877 ___ jbos

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-13 Thread max.ander...@jboss.com
What timezone ? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4217872#4217872 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4217872 ___ jboss-user mailing list jboss-user@list

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-13 Thread tfennelly
"mzeijen" wrote : Ok, that is cool. Could you send me an e-mail so that we can schedule it? My address is maurice(at)smies(point)com. It would need to be in the evening, because I am at work during the day. We also need to make sure that John (Graham) is involved in any discussions. Max, John

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-13 Thread mzeijen
max.ander...@jboss.com wrote : yes I would love to go on a chat with you guys - but not until we get GA out; i'm fully booked until then, so some time next week. Ok, that is cool. Could you send me an e-mail so that we can schedule it? My address is maurice(at)smies(point)com. It would need to

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-13 Thread tfennelly
Hi guys. Sorry for being late in joining this conversation :) I think we are definitely talking about different things here. My 2c worth... Configuration Model In terms of Smooks configurations, the latest version of Smooks (v1.1) is backward compatible (BC) with versions back to v0.9 (and pro

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-12 Thread max.ander...@jboss.com
I think we are talking about the same thing and yes I would love to go on a chat with you guys - but not until we get GA out; i'm fully booked until then, so some time next week. With respect to broken syntax readers imagine if the java editor in eclipse would stop being able to code complete,

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-12 Thread mzeijen
anonymous wrote : Warning - I am a smooks noob, just have that in mind when reading my answers :) No problem. But I must confess that I am wondering now if we are talking about the same thing ;). I am also just brainstorming here, so my theories can also be wrong one or more points ;). ano

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-12 Thread max.ander...@jboss.com
Warning - I am a smooks noob, just have that in mind when reading my answers :) "mzeijen" wrote : anonymous wrote : No matter if we use a custom classloader we would need to have a *very* stable API to do this since we would compile against liet say Smooks 1.0 would our code be able to use Smoo

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-12 Thread mzeijen
anonymous wrote : No matter if we use a custom classloader we would need to have a *very* stable API to do this since we would compile against liet say Smooks 1.0 would our code be able to use Smooks 1.1, 1.2 etc. without updating the binaries ? - does Smooks provide that ? I believe you need

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-11 Thread max.ander...@jboss.com
No matter if we use a custom classloader we would need to have a *very* stable API to do this since we would compile against liet say Smooks 1.0 would our code be able to use Smooks 1.1, 1.2 etc. without updating the binaries ? - does Smooks provide that ? And what about the model that we load

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-11 Thread mzeijen
I understand that you want to release it. Most developers probably don't try Beta or RC releases. I do hope that not everybody runs into the same critical problems with the graph editor as I did. Regarding to your questions: How are we going to handle multiple versions of Smooks if the tooling

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-10 Thread max.ander...@jboss.com
..and is the Smooks readers capable of handling partial documents which is how users normally edit files. ? View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4216560#4216560 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=42

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-10 Thread max.ander...@jboss.com
We don't include Smooks in the upcoming JBoss Developer Studio 2 for this reason, but if we also keeping it out from JBoss Tools we are never going to get any feedback - i.e. you would never have seen this if we hadn't start bundling it, right ? With respect to your suggestions about using Smoo

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-10 Thread mzeijen
Thanks for the answer. That explains a lot. I understand that you can't hold back JBoss Tools just for one editor. Isn't it maybe an option to not release the Smooks editor in the next JBoss Tools? Because what is the point of releasing an editor when it is so buggy that it is almost unusable.

[jboss-user] [JBoss Tools (users)] - Re: Feedback on the Smooks editor

2009-03-09 Thread max.ander...@jboss.com
First off, I really appreciate we are now getting feedback for the editor even though it is hard to use, but it as a start :) Will 3.0.0.GA go out with an incomplete smooks editor ? Yes - I don't want to delay GA months just for one plugin. Should it be named 0.1 instead of 1.0 ? Yes, it shou