[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-28 Thread angra81
Sorry, I've got a mistake, i've quickly posted the last question and I got confused... I wanted to know if is it possible to invoke external web services from the jPDL, not from BPEL... I've used the getting started with jbpm and I designed a little process as found in there. So I have some

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-28 Thread kukeltje
Dario, I hope you've seen the abbreviation STFF a few times in this forum this question has been asked and answered over a thousand times View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4023641#4023641 Reply to the post :

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-28 Thread estaub
Dario, To the best of my knowledge, there's no support for web services in JBPM proper. Ronald, Have you ever actually tried to search for this? Finding a message that isn't about BPEL is difficult. I suspect that the search engine may not be doing NOT correctly - at least, I couldn't get it

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-28 Thread kukeltje
Ed... Uhmm yes and no, Never used the word 'not' in the forum search. I often use google. could be that the keyword not is not working. That would be a shame. Still... people should at least try to search this fine forum, and if nothing comes up, post a question and MENTION they did not find

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-27 Thread angra81
Is it possible to invoke external web services from the BPEL in jBPM? tx, Dario View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4023134#4023134 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=4023134

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-27 Thread meghanai_99
Yes you can invoke external webservices. That is what BPEL is used for ...for service orchestration. Alex, Thanks for pointing out that console doesn't have support for BPEL yet which I kind of knew from my investigation that I did 2-3 months ago. While reading this thread I got the

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread angra81
meghanai_99 wrote : | Where do I get the console subproject? | Me too i'm interested in this question, but I didn't understand the answer of kukeltje. And what is the web console? I'm searching for it but i've not found it. Is it a plug in, something to download and install, or is it

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread kukeltje
Sorry, to prevent getting flamed, I'm not going to answer this anyone? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4022489#4022489 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=4022489

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread angra81
Yes, i've checked the wiki, I've followed all the steps. But I didn't understand what is the web console? Is it the web page where I can arrive with the link monitoring? And also... is it possible to modify the web pages and above all the scenarios which I have after deploying the process

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread meghanai_99
I apologize for my ignorance but what is STFF which is currently in 3.2? I tried searching the JBoss site and it found me couple of forum threads where STFF is mentioned, nothing more. Thank you, Meghana View the original post :

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread meghanai_99
Hello estaub, The wiki talks about installation when you have downloaded JBPM starter's kit. In my case I have downloaded JBoss 4.0.5GA and JBPM-BPEL extension 1.1 beta3. Like I said I have installed couple of BPEL processes already so the setup is right. The JBPM engine is already on JBoss.

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread estaub
That class is in the main jbpm jar in jbpm-3.1.2.jar, as distributed. I don't know how you'd be missing it. Maybe you've got multiple versions of jbpm*.jar in your classpath, and one of them doesn't use that class? -Ed Staub View the original post :

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread estaub
When I looked up STFF on http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STFF Acronym Definition | STFF Search The/This Freaking Forum (polite form) | STFF Safeguard Tactical Field Force | STFF South Texas Funding Forum | STFF Superficial Temporal Fascial Flap I'm not

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread meghanai_99
Yes I copied that jar already but get different exception now. I did not have that jar already installed on my JBoss since I had installed both JBoss and Jbpm-BPEL extension separately. I downloaded JBPM core 3.1.4 now and copied that jar file to my lib folder in JBoss. Now I get this

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The console is a module of the jBPM jPDL installation. jBPM BPEL 1.1.Beta3 builds on jBPM 3.2.Beta1, so that is the distribution you are looking for. Please visit the sourceforge file releases. Once you unzip the distribution, go to jbpm-jpdl-3.2.Beta1/deploy and you will find the console

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-24 Thread kukeltje
STFF, it is in 3.2, currently in beta View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4021577#4021577 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=4021577 ___ jboss-user mailing

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-23 Thread meghanai_99
Where do I get the console subproject? I have couple of BPEL processes running on JBPM now and would like to see them at runtime as I am sending requests. I am not expecting graphical UI. Just variables values is fine. Thank you, Meghana View the original post :

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-21 Thread angra81
So if I understand correctly, there's no such API that would help me to access the runtime evolution of a bpel scenario. One solution you're proposing is to look into the bpel process log file or DB, which does not seem very convenient ... I thought there would be some facilities provided to

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-21 Thread kukeltje
Depends on what your definition of running is a running jpdl/bpel process can be in a state of doing nothing. Waiting for external input. Should that be kept in memory? Would be a nice requirement although it would highly conflict with one of the other requirements: high volume of running

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-21 Thread angra81
Ok... I'll try to explain better... I want a web page. In this web page I want to show a BPEL scenario. I want this BPEL scenario to be dynamic, it means I also want to represent the changes at run time. I think that, client side, the dynamism can be obtained by using ajax technology. The

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-14 Thread kukeltje
define to monitor the processes in more detail. Look at 3.2 webconsole there are already some things in there. BPEL or JPDL depends on what you want to achieve. The console works for both View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4016266#4016266 Reply to

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-14 Thread angra81
I mean process monitoring as having a web interface (implemented with flash, or ajax, or others) where I can see, at run time, the evolution of objects each time that they receive a web service of my business process. This evolution might be represented by icons colors, or icons changes, or

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-14 Thread kukeltje
This is partly what I meant with define 'process monitoring The thing is that it can be looked at so broadly that not everything you want is in there. If with the evolution of objects yuou mean the processvariables etc then yes, that is in there The ILogs demo is an example of such broad

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-14 Thread angra81
Actually I'm just starting in using business processes, jbpm, and all this, and I'm exploring the solutions, so I'm sorry if I place stupid questions... :) Well, I try to explain better. Firstly, my objects are documents (application forms, motivation letters, CV, etc...) Imagine a document to

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-13 Thread angra81
So I have another question... Is it feasible to implement a system to monitor the processes with jBPM? Is it better using BPEL or jPDL? I have to do it in approximately 4,5 months. Thanks, Dario View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4015666#4015666

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-12 Thread angra81
thank you! ;-) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=4015069#4015069 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=4015069 ___ jboss-user mailing list

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Choosing JBPM?

2007-02-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jBPM offers two different process languages. Any of them let you to orchestrate web services. BPEL is fully oriented to web services, but it does not let you directly incorporate user tasks or Java components. Conversely, jPDL lets you easily incorporate Java code and human intervention.