[JBoss-user] informix 7.X jdbc driver

2001-07-27 Thread ivan
Dear All,   I have a informix jdbc driver on hand now. But, it only for jdbc1.x. I would like to configure jdbc.jcml to use the function of connection pooling. I am sure that I set the configuration, including db URL, username, and password, correctly. However, Jboss can't connect to informix

Re: [JBoss-user] Force create of table after manual drop?

2001-07-27 Thread David M. Karr
> "David" == David M Karr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> In JBoss 2.2.2, using MySQL, I had a sample application, and it had created a David> table. I manually dropped the table, now I'm trying to figure out how to get David> JBoss to figure out it needs to recreate the tab

Re: [JBoss-user] Force create of table after manual drop?

2001-07-27 Thread David M. Karr
> "Nicolai" == Nicolai P Guba writes: Nicolai> On 26 Jul 2001 19:45:41 -0700, David M. Karr wrote: >> > "Nicolai" == Nicolai P Guba writes: >> My situation is less complicated than that. I just changed the default >> standardjaws.xml to use mySQL instead of Hypersonic,

Re: [JBoss-user] using PortableRemoteObject.narrow

2001-07-27 Thread Dmitri Colebatch
The correct form is: MyBeanHome home = (EJBHome) PortableRemoteObject.narrow( ctx.lookup(JNDI_NAME), MyBeanHome.class); cheesr dim On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Toby Hede wrote: > I keep seeing code samples that use the followng syntaxt: > > Object ref = ctx.l

RE: [JBoss-user] New user

2001-07-27 Thread marc fleury
cause it's much more fun to dump questions on you? marcf |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott M |Stark |Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:49 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] New user | | |So why don't you try to use th

Re: [JBoss-user] Not setting config property?

2001-07-27 Thread David Jencks
It will not affect your application in any way unless you are using MinervaDS, which is a jca connector/resource adapter version of the hypersonic DefaultDS. I think it may be caused by removing the hypersonic db config bean. david jencks On 2001.07.27 21:37:20 -0400 G.L. Grobe wrote: > What do

Re: [JBoss-user] New user

2001-07-27 Thread Scott M Stark
So why don't you try to use the JBoss/Tomcat bundle that comes preconfigured to avoid these problems? - Original Message - From: "Dan Bereczki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] New user > Hi Shiva, > > From one

[JBoss-user] Not setting config property?

2001-07-27 Thread G.L. Grobe
What does the following output from 'run_with_tomcat.sh' mean and how might it affect an appliation?   [MinervaDS] Not setting config property 'Driver'[MinervaDS] Not setting config property 'Password'[MinervaDS] Not setting config property 'UserName'[MinervaDS] Bound connection factory for

Re: [JBoss-user] New user

2001-07-27 Thread Dan Bereczki
Hi Shiva, From one Newbie to another, I ran into the same error, until I fixed the path for the TOMCAT_HOME in the jboss.conf file. First make sure you replace the default "put your path to tomcat here", then when you're doing that make sure you don't leave off the trailing "/" like I did.

[JBoss-user] problem getting correct datasource

2001-07-27 Thread G.L. Grobe
I'm hunting down a problem in my database configuration where the DefaultDS is being used and I can't get my PostgresqlDB resource to be used. Does anyone see anything wrong w/ the following config?   Here's what JBoss's output reports upon startup, 'run_with_tomcat.sh' : ---

[JBoss-user] Jboss JNDI from oracle

2001-07-27 Thread Ferguson, Doug
Hi, I am trying to execute a java stored procedure that access a bean inside jBoss. When I try to instantiate my InitialContext it says class not found for NamingContextFactory. I did a loadJava to load the jnp classes into oracle but for some reason I still get this exception. Anybody done thi

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread marc fleury
sorry no can do, the choice on cafepress is pretty limited as it turns out. So tough luck for the black stuff, sorry, it's got to be white sorry marcf |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Marx |Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 6:20 PM

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Frank Marx
yes and a different design of the hat a different model ... Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of marc fleury Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!! JBOSS MUGS!

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread marc fleury
ok so you want black t-shirts instead of white ok... marcf |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Marx |Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:36 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!! JBOSS MUGS! | | | |Wha

RE: [JBoss-user] jboss not sync'd with external db changes

2001-07-27 Thread Bill Burke
I replied on JBoss dev. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Ward > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 5:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [JBoss-user] jboss not sync'd with external db changes > Importance: High > > > (Originally

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Frank Marx
What I mean is that white t-shirts and this white ugly hat are really boring, both get dirty very fast. Maybe something in black or some other colors, maybe have a look at the stuff from ORACLE or SUN the things they have are pretty nice. Frank ___ J

Re: [JBoss-user] jboss not sync'd with external db changes

2001-07-27 Thread danch (Dan Christopherson)
Set your commit-option to B or C in jboss.xml David Ward wrote: > (Originally accidently sent this to jboss-development. BTW, this is on > JBoss-2.2.2_Tomcat-3.2.2, JDK 1.3.1, RedHat 7.1, Oracle 8.1.6) > > I'm goin' a bit crazy here... > > If I have a sqlplus window open to my Oracle databas

[JBoss-user] jboss not sync'd with external db changes

2001-07-27 Thread David Ward
(Originally accidently sent this to jboss-development. BTW, this is on JBoss-2.2.2_Tomcat-3.2.2, JDK 1.3.1, RedHat 7.1, Oracle 8.1.6) I'm goin' a bit crazy here... If I have a sqlplus window open to my Oracle database, I can see the data change as I change values via my CMP Entity Bean. Howe

Re: [JBoss-user] Building examples

2001-07-27 Thread Aravinda Ghosh Addala
Thank you. I missed that one. -- On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:18:34 Devraj Mukherjee wrote: >One to me it looks like you don't have j2ee.jar in your class path and even >the standard libraries distributed with java. > >Devraj > > >At 13:33 26/07/01 -0700, you wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I have just downloade

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Juha-P Lindfors
http://www.mail-archive.com/jboss-user@list.working-dogs.com/msg05752.html On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, marc fleury wrote: > |Beware that someone had opened an account in jboss' name back when and the > |new one is jbossstore... > > hey speaking of which... does someone know the guy who did that ? I b

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread marc fleury
|Beware that someone had opened an account in jboss' name back when and the |new one is jbossstore... hey speaking of which... does someone know the guy who did that ? I believe it was when we were talking about t-shirts back when, so I think it is "kosher" but redundant now and we trying to clos

[JBoss-user] jbossms examples

2001-07-27 Thread Grobe, Gary
Anyone know of any examples of a session bean sending to a queue using the jbossms provider. I looked at chpt 7 of the docs but since the docs use mdb's and this is my first time trying it (and I'm using session beans), I'm not sure how to apply this. Any help much appreciated.

[JBoss-user] New user

2001-07-27 Thread Shiva P
Hi All, I am newbie to JBoss. Got most of the things working except for the Tomcat and JBoss integration. I am on Windows NT 4.0 with SP 6. My JBoss version is 2.2.2 and my Tomcat is 3.2.3. Below is the error I am getting [EmbeddedTomcatSX] Starting [EmbeddedTomcatSX] Starting EmbeddedTomcatSX...

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Daniel Cardin
AHHAHAH :))) Why not change the browser or the OS, while being there? :-))) I'm just saying that this is how it shows on my machine... and probably on other's... So it should be changed, because it's confusing. Or else, I'll ask for that special 10.99 price :)) Cheers, Dan -Message d'o

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread marc fleury
|Maybe some different color and design would much be better. what the fuck are you talking about? did you look at the color balls one or the old "jboss" one. Beware that someone had opened an account in jboss' name back when and the new one is jbossstore... it needs to be the colored balls and

Re: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Scott M Stark
Pick a better font! - Original Message - From: "Daniel Cardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!! JBOSS MUGS! Please forgive the binary attachment ... but it's worth it :) _

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Frank Marx
HI, I have seen the T-Shirts and Mugs and they are far away from pretty, they are just boring. The Hat sucks too a lot. Maybe some different color and design would much be better. Frank ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourc

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Daniel Cardin
Please forgive the binary attachment ... but it's worth it :) -Message d'origine- De : Scott M Stark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : 27 juillet, 2001 15:53 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!! JBOSS MUGS! That is a sale being run by cafepress, not

Re: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Scott M Stark
That is a sale being run by cafepress, not us as we don't generate the page. I don't see any confusion in the listing though. - Original Message - From: "Daniel Cardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRT

Re: [JBoss-user] Classes not being searched in WebApp

2001-07-27 Thread Julian Gosnell
--- Jake Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tomcat or Jetty or... Jules > Hi all. > > When I deploy an ear, the beans deploy and the > webapp deploys. However it > seems that the webapp is not searching the > WEB-INF/classes directory. When > I was deploying this not using jboss, it see

RE: [JBoss-user] JBOSS TSHIRTS!!!!!! JBOSS MUGS!!!!!

2001-07-27 Thread Daniel Cardin
[from the web page] Microfiber Cap $18.99 Sale Price $16.99! JBoss Have a look at the rendering :) the 8 being --crossed-- it really LOOKS like the regular price is 10.99 and that it is being offered at the very special price of 16.99$ heheh I'd do something about this :) Dan -Messa

[JBoss-user] Classes not being searched in WebApp

2001-07-27 Thread Jake Thompson
Hi all. When I deploy an ear, the beans deploy and the webapp deploys. However it seems that the webapp is not searching the WEB-INF/classes directory. When I was deploying this not using jboss, it seemed to work fine. Has anyone experinced this? Any help is much appreciated. Thanks, Jake T.

[JBoss-user] JSP PreCompilation

2001-07-27 Thread Tahir Awan
Hi, Any idea if its possible topreCompile JSPs bundled in .war file? I could not find anything on jakarta.org about this. Thanks, Tahir ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user

Re: [JBoss-user] InterestServlet example questions

2001-07-27 Thread A.L.
Martin, Where did you change this information? Also could you explain to me why you say you only sort of got it to work? What exactly is this change doing? Thanks, -Amos --- Martin Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've finally, finally got this servlet example to > work, sort of

Re: [JBoss-user] InterestServlet example questions

2001-07-27 Thread David Ward
Martin, Try adding a jboss-web.xml in your war's WEB-INF directory with the following contents: ejb/Interest interest/Interest You should then be able to use the "java:comp/env/ejb/Interest" jndi name in your servlet. I've never tried to r

[JBoss-user] Stateful Session Bean declaration

2001-07-27 Thread Anthony IVETAC
I'm stuck. I can't figure out how to correctly declare a statfeul session bean in the ejb-jar.xml file!!! The bean works, except it's attributes aren't being stored in between method invocations. Does anyone have a snippet of EJB-JAR.xml for a stateful session bean, please? BTW - where are

Re: [JBoss-user] java.io.NotSerializableException need help

2001-07-27 Thread yan fan
Yes , it did. --- Dmitri Colebatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does com.arcsight.vssreport.VssReportItem implement > java.io.Serializable? It needs to. > > cheesr > dim > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, yan fan wrote: > > > I am runing jboss&tomcat , with servlet , BMP, and > > when I try to get a Arr

[JBoss-user] InterestServlet example questions

2001-07-27 Thread Martin Welch
Title: InterestServlet example questions Hi, I've finally, finally got this servlet example to work, sort of. If I change this line: Object ref  = jndiContext.lookup("java:comp/env/ejb/Interest"); to Object ref  = jndiContext.lookup("interest/Interest"); it works.

[JBoss-user] Message Driven Bean not picking up messages after restart.

2001-07-27 Thread Cameron Tabor
Hello, I have been using Jboss for Message Driven Beans and have run into a problem with the latest version of the jboss2.4 BETA. When I shutdown the server while it is processing messages from the queue, then restart, the messages appear to be reloaded, but the beans never process them. New

Re: [JBoss-user] Force create of table after manual drop?

2001-07-27 Thread Nicolai P Guba
On 26 Jul 2001 19:45:41 -0700, David M. Karr wrote: > > "Nicolai" == Nicolai P Guba writes: > My situation is less complicated than that. I just changed the default > standardjaws.xml to use mySQL instead of Hypersonic, then I created my project. > I didn't change any type mappings. When I

RE: [JBoss-user] Jestpeed - A Horrible Exception - NewbeeQ

2001-07-27 Thread Sigurður Reynisson
It sure is! ;) However, after replacing it with "org.postgresql.Driver", I still get: Horrible Exception: org.apache.velocity.exception.ResourceNotFoundException: Unable to find resource 'screens/Error' -- sr -Original Message- From: David Jencks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27. jú

AW: AW: AW: [JBoss-user] JBOSS-ZOAP: questions on its features

2001-07-27 Thread Jung , Dr. Christoph
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: Jm Seigneur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Juli 2001 09:23 >An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Betreff: RE: AW: AW: [JBoss-user] JBOSS-ZOAP: questions on its features >Hello, >If I understand well, the JBoss/Zoap project isn't supported anymore

Re: [JBoss-user] Problem with connecting to an Oracle database

2001-07-27 Thread Tim Yates
try DataSource ds = (javax.sql.DataSource) initCtx.lookup("java:/OracleDB"); - Original Message - From: Eli Gjørven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: [JBoss-user] Problem with connecting to an Oracle database > > There is

Re: [JBoss-user] Classpaths

2001-07-27 Thread David Jencks
I think starting your client from a script where you set exactly the classpath you need (ignoring the gloabal classpath) is a good idea, rather than relying on the global classpath. Maybe theres a better way...? david jencks On 2001.07.27 02:33:30 -0400 Alice Ad wrote: > thanks for the reply. y

Re: [JBoss-user] Jestpeed - A Horrible Exception - NewbeeQ

2001-07-27 Thread David Jencks
I've never heard of jetspeed before and don't know what turbine does but... database.adaptor.DBPostgres=org.hsql.jdbcDriver looks peculiar, since (I believe) this is the Hypersonic driver. david jencks On 2001.07.27 06:14:27 -0400 Sigurður Reynisson wrote: > Hi all! > > I posted this in the J

Re: [JBoss-user] Auto Incrementing Primary Key with PostgreSQL a ndJBoss

2001-07-27 Thread Ludovic Orban
How would you choose the next key manually ? I mean: if the field was just an integer (not auto-incr), how would you get the value of the next primary key ? Ludovic --On vendredi 27 juillet 2001 11:47 +0200 Hermann RANGAMANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It works only if you decide to gener

[JBoss-user] Jestpeed - A Horrible Exception - NewbeeQ

2001-07-27 Thread Sigurður Reynisson
Hi all! I posted this in the Jetspeed group and got no answers and I'm posting here as a last try - pls forgive me if this is not related to JBoss! ;) Specs: JBoss 2.4 BETA(Rel_2_4_0_23) w/Embedded Tomcat-3.2.3 Jetspeed Portal Implementation 1.3a2 (builds ok) I'm trying to use P

RE: [JBoss-user] Jive Forums speed feed-back wanted

2001-07-27 Thread marc fleury
|P.S: Do you _really_ mean to shut down the jboss-user |list? if and when the nntp gateway is there yes, in the mean time no, I can't say I am too crazy about the forum stuff. It is good, when it works it works well, but it doesn't cover all our needs, by far. marcf | |___

RE: [JBoss-user] Jive Forums speed feed-back wanted

2001-07-27 Thread marc fleury
Yes please, The source for the JBoss L&F is under website (look at index.jsp). The jive pages I guess you can get from www.jivesoftware.com. marcf |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan - Blue |Lotus Software |Sent: Friday, July 27, 200

Re: [JBoss-user] Auto Incrementing Primary Key with PostgreSQL a nd JBoss

2001-07-27 Thread Hermann RANGAMANA
It works only if you decide to generate yourself auto-incr value. But what folk are talking about is how to get a database generated auto-incr and map it with your entity bean. --hermann - Original Message - From: "Maurice le Rutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday

Re: [JBoss-user] Jive Forums speed feed-back wanted

2001-07-27 Thread jK.MkIII
Victor Langelo wrote: Marc, I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.76 on a 330 MHz Window NT machine with a high speed connection. Every topic list page takes about 5-6 seconds to display. Even with only 15 topics in the list. Other pages take 2-3 seconds. I have tried with IE and the pages draw much

Re: [JBoss-user] Jive Forums speed feed-back wanted

2001-07-27 Thread jK.MkIII
marc fleury wrote:  could it be a browser issue??? hm that needs to be more clearly documentedthreads having new messages since your last visit is simply implemented on the client by making the title include a number of posts asmy post [2] this way the browser will interpret it as a new link

RE: [JBoss-user] using PortableRemoteObject.narrow

2001-07-27 Thread Hanna Khamis
The first is necessary if you are using a protocol other than JRMP on the wire. JRMP is the default with JBoss, so the second form will work for you. However, if you may be switching to another protocol (eg RMI-IIOP), you should use the first. Hanna Khamis -Original Message

RE: [JBoss-user] Auto Incrementing Primary Key with PostgreSQL a ndJBoss

2001-07-27 Thread Ludovic Orban
And how to perform this with CMP ? Ludovic --On vendredi 27 juillet 2001 10:27 +0200 Federico Vesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > Maybe someone might be interested to the solution I adopted: > > private Integer insertRow (String projectName,int budget,java.sql.Date > start,java.sql.Date

Re: [JBoss-user] Auto Incrementing Primary Key with PostgreSQL a nd JBoss

2001-07-27 Thread Maurice le Rutte
Database independent way: Create a sequence bean that has a name and a counter. The PK is the name, and you can get a next value of the counter. Maurice. - Original Message - From: "Federico Vesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:27 AM Subject:

Re: [JBoss-user] using PortableRemoteObject.narrow

2001-07-27 Thread Lachezar Dobrev
Hi. For JBoss as with many app/ejb servers both are valid. However the second is not valid on some RMI-IIOP servers (IAS/BAS at least). If you want speed and lower your portability use the second (no PortableRemoteObject). If you want portability... Well... A narrow is needed to us

[JBoss-user] Problem Activating beans

2001-07-27 Thread Nicolai P Guba
JAWS seems to have a problem I don't understand. Suddenly, everything seems broken! Here is some output: [Stakeholder] Activated bean Stakeholder with id = 826 [JAWS] Unable to read from ResultSet: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException [Stakeholder] Activated bean Stakeholder with id = 20

RE: [JBoss-user] Auto Incrementing Primary Key with PostgreSQL a nd JBoss

2001-07-27 Thread Federico Vesco
Hi. Maybe someone might be interested to the solution I adopted: private Integer insertRow (String projectName,int budget,java.sql.Date start,java.sql.Date end) throws SQLException { String nextStatement="select nextval('project_idproject_seq')"; String insertStatement =

RE: [JBoss-user] Jive Forums speed feed-back wanted

2001-07-27 Thread Juha-P Lindfors
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Dan - Blue Lotus Software wrote: > > This is all a vague memory from about 2 years ago. If there's interest in > modifying the Jive HTML pages to take this into account, I can see if I can > dig up more information on this... Yes please. I'm curious to know. -- Juha ___

Re: [JBoss-user] Jive Forums speed feed-back wanted

2001-07-27 Thread Juha-P Lindfors
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Ole Husgaard wrote: > Netscape 4.61??? Yep. Version 4.61 [en}-99147, win32 build to be exact. > I use that, and cannot even see the left side > navigation links on the front page of www.jboss.org, > (big yellow blurb over the links) so I have not > been able to navigate t

[JBoss-user] Tibco Rendezvous

2001-07-27 Thread Guido . Kracke
I switched from jBoss 2.2.2 to jBoss 2.4.0-beta and everything works fine. Whether this is the result of code changes or of changes in the default configuration ... I don't know. Cheers, Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, > > I wrote an MBean (org.jboss.util.ServiceBMeanSupport) dedicat

RE: AW: AW: [JBoss-user] JBOSS-ZOAP: questions on its features

2001-07-27 Thread Jm Seigneur
Hello, If I understand well, the JBoss/Zoap project isn't supported anymore and the coming JBoss3.0 should include an Apache-SOAP component which will replace JBoss/Zoap. I'd like to know whether the JBoss/Zoap feature of no manual deployment of EJB SOAP counterparts will be still available. T