Re: [jdev] googletalk

2006-01-31 Thread Norman Rasmussen
On 1/31/06, Yves Goergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30.01.2006 20:03 (+0100), Jean-Louis Seguineau wrote: The from JID needs to be fully qualified, i.e MUST have a resource. message to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/some-resource type=chatbodytest/body/message I don't think

RE: j[jdev] googletalk

2006-01-31 Thread Jean-Louis Seguineau
If you re-read the post, I am not talking about the to (destination) address, but the from (source) address. The client connects to an XMPP server through c2s. The server will force the from address of any stanza originating from the client to the fully qualified JID of the client (this is

RE: [jdev] googletalk

2006-01-31 Thread Jean-Louis Seguineau
In the case of a connected IM client the from MUST be fully qualified a per RFC3920 in order to conform with the delivery rules. This is not the case for entities that are not connected using the jabber:client namespace. In short, yes the protocol does not requires the full JID, but for a client

[jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was just chatting with the developer of a new XMPP server being written in Ruby. Check it out here: http://xmppd.malkier.net/ Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre Jabber Software Foundation http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.shtml -BEGIN PGP

Re: [jdev] googletalk

2006-01-31 Thread Gary Burd
On 1/30/06, Ben Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know google does an amount of strict checking, however i cannot figure out what is wrong with the above message. Any ideas? I took a look at the code. The possible problems are: - The stanza is sent before the dialback handshake completes. -

[jdev] Pubsub questions

2006-01-31 Thread Matt Tucker
Hello all, A couple of pubsub questions: 1) In section 14.4.3 pubsub#node_config FORM_TYPE the fields pubsub#collection and pubsub#node_type are defined. They both seem to be asking the same question -- whether a node is a leaf or a collection. What's the difference between the two fields?

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Hal Rottenberg
On 1/31/06, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just chatting with the developer of a new XMPP server being written in Ruby. Check it out here: Looks like there's not a lot out there yet but it looks very interesting. The roadmap says 30% done for the first alpha release. Maybe

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Eric Will
That's just based on the open tickets in trac. In reality there's still a ways to go, depending on which route I take. A bunch of the developers from various libraries such as Net::XMPP and XMPP4R have contacted me asking if I plan to use their libraries, and I haven't decided yet. I mean

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Justin Karneges
Slightly off-topic, but what is a shellable jabber server? I used to run jabberd from the shell, but maybe this is not what you mean. :) -Justin On Tuesday 31 January 2006 15:02, Eric Will wrote: That's just based on the open tickets in trac. In reality there's still a ways to go, depending

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I asked Eric that via IM today. :-) He answered: Eric Will: a lot of people buy shells just to run ircd Eric Will: so it just installs in a single folder in say, ~/ircd/ Eric Will: and that folder has the etc/ and bin/ and such folders in it, so it

[jdev] SPPS

2006-01-31 Thread Remko Troncon
Hi, As announced on http://el-tramo.be/blog/spps we are working on implementing SPPS in Psi. We are eagerly waiting for the first server implementations to emerge, such that we can move away from our low-level PubSub backend, and put the SPPS protocol to the test. Can anyone let us know if they

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Justin Karneges
So I guessed right. :) But in that case, xmppd wouldn't necessarily be the first such server. Cool nonetheless, more software should work this way IMO. -Justin On Tuesday 31 January 2006 15:34, Eric Will wrote: Since quite the number of people in this community (hey, I'm new, give me a

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Eric Will
I haven't personally used every jabberd out there, so I'm not sure. I currently use ejabberd, and afaik you can't do that with it. I used jabberd2 a long time ago, and it was a system-wide install as well. If you know of any other project like this I'll reword the site, as I'm definitely not

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Hal Rottenberg
I was gonna add detail to the wiki page, but didn't see a way to do that. To be more precise, we're talking about the ability to run a service (daemon) in a self-containd fashion such as what you are forced to do when you've bought a basic shell account from an ISP. Sometimes you won't get much

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Eric Will
As far as I know the shell business is still pretty busy. I have a shell with http://www.reverse.net/, and they're really stable and have a great network with awesome DoS protection. His site doesn't specifically say that he allows something like `xmppd`, but I'm sure if I talked to him he

[jdev] Server rules for handling subscriptions for non-existent users

2006-01-31 Thread Vinod Panicker
Hi, It seems that server behaviour for handling presence subscribe stanzas to non-existent users is undefined in the RFC. IMO, it should be silently dropped. Do give me a bonk on the head if its there in the RFC someplace. If not, probably could be added to xmppbis Also, what about roster set

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 31/01/06 at 16:20 -0700, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I asked Eric that via IM today. :-) He answered: Eric Will: a lot of people buy shells just to run ircd Eric Will: so it just installs in a single folder in say, ~/ircd/ Eric Will: and

Re: [jdev] new XMPP server in Ruby

2006-01-31 Thread Sander Devrieze
Op woensdag 01 februari 2006 00:54, schreef Eric Will: I haven't personally used every jabberd out there, so I'm not sure. I currently use ejabberd, and afaik you can't do that with it. Ah, so you mean without the need to run an installation procedure such as ./configure --prefix=/path etc?