Re: [jdev] Facebook XMPP

2008-05-16 Thread Jonathan Dickinson
Just to back-track a bit... I agree that making non-conformant standards (like Google did) isn't the best for client support: in some cases it pushes things that are otherwise required. Look at the X-GOOGLE-TOKEN it was a feature that wasn't covered by the standards. Even though it was

Re: [jdev] Facebook XMPP

2008-05-16 Thread Nicolas Vérité
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Nick Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how about writting an open letter to these influential companies? Who thinks this is a good idea? I agree. It won't hurt, besides it will help us gain visibility, which we cruelly lack nowadays, especially when big

Re: [jdev] Facebook XMPP

2008-05-16 Thread Nicolas Vérité
Yes, but please, PLEASE, never ever forget anymore those BIG players: * Gadu-Gadu in Poland * Nate On in South Korea * QQ in China * soon Baidu Hi in China All of them are deeply anchored in their area of adoption, even if you don't see them from your part of the world. Remember also that

Re: [jdev] Facebook XMPP

2008-05-16 Thread Nicolas Vérité
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An open letter I don't believe in open letters. How gauche! [...] we [...] decided that we would stop doing press releases because they are *so* 20th-century. Now we just blog: http://blog.xmpp.org/ Most

Re: [jdev] Facebook XMPP

2008-05-16 Thread Norman Rasmussen
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First contact several potential walled garden owners and get them to support the open letter by switching to XMPP. Here's a thought that might cause some discussion: Even if the 'walled-gardens' _only_ implement s2s,

Re: [jdev] Facebook XMPP

2008-05-16 Thread Sander Devrieze
2008/5/16 Norman Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First contact several potential walled garden owners and get them to support the open letter by switching to XMPP. Here's a thought that might cause some discussion:

[jdev] Walled garden [Was: Facebook XMPP]

2008-05-16 Thread Sylvain Hellegouarch
Sander Devrieze a écrit : 2008/5/15 JabberForum [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I aggree. I don't really see a point in having an open letter. They know of our existence, and they'll contact us soon enough. An open letter maybe can be useful if it is done as some kind of press release. First contact