Re: [jdev] Simple JavaScript XMPP client example

2014-09-01 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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[jdev] Fwd: Autumn XMPP summit outside NA?

2014-07-23 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Hello folks, We are wondering if anyone would be interested in autumn summit if we'd move it from North America to another place this year? The possible places are welcome to be suggested. Thanks! -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder

[jdev] Offline messages XEPs interoperability (XEPs 0013 and XEP-0160)

2014-02-21 Thread Sergey Dobrov
hey folks, for now we have two different XEPs that allowing xmpp-servers to store messages that being sent while client was not available. XEP 0013 says that it's not very nice to flood all the messages on the client when it's becoming available, rather it advices to provide a way to discover

Re: [jdev] Offline messages XEPs interoperability (XEPs 0013 and XEP-0160)

2014-02-21 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Oh, such a nice discussion have started suddenly, thanks :) Thanks Matthias for such a detailed response, it's very nice. I would agree that XEP-0013 is good to deprecate now, but I'd move this to MAM instead. I do remember the cases when clients got really flooded with offline messages.

Re: [jdev] Transparent resources and protocol translation

2012-12-28 Thread Sergey Dobrov
what do you mean by transparent sending? Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, Steffen Larsen wrote: +1 but the XEP have been deferred (last update 2007): http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0209.html Reading the XEP makes me wonder if the server can transparantly send a

Re: [jdev] Transparent resources and protocol translation

2012-12-28 Thread Sergey Dobrov
No, it won't do so and I don't know if it really possible anyway. Why it's needed to be done on the server rather than on the client side? Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, Sergey Dobrov wrote: what do you mean by transparent sending? If one meta contact

Re: [jdev] Transparent resources and protocol translation

2012-12-28 Thread Sergey Dobrov
. Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, Sergey Dobrov wrote: No, it won't do so and I don't know if it really possible anyway. Why it's needed to be done on the server rather than on the client side? Because ideally I would like to have unified messaging from the server, so

Re: [jdev] Transparent resources and protocol translation

2012-12-27 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Why not metacontacts here? Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Currently a lot of transports are available which provide a subdomain and a new XMPP compatible jid which is build out of old_protocol_uri@transport_subdomain. In clients such as Pidgin it is possible to group contacts which

Re: [jdev] Know JID of the publisher from the published item

2012-12-18 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Hello, Sorry for the late answer, had no possibility to answer, but maybe this will help: https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1347 ? andy nes andyne...@gmail.com wrote: ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev

Re: [jdev] Node Owner subscribing users to a node

2012-12-05 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] Node Owner subscribing users to a node

2012-12-05 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] Node Owner subscribing users to a node

2012-12-05 Thread Sergey Dobrov
the subscriber side. /andy On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org mailto:bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: On 12/05/2012 06:16 PM, Kim Alvefur wrote: On 2012-12-05 11:00, andy nes wrote: Hey, I have a pubsub node, to which publishers publish

Re: [jdev] Presence information of Publishers, for Subscribers

2012-11-29 Thread Sergey Dobrov
thread for presences solution is definitely the best for you. /andy On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org mailto:bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: On 11/28/2012 09:00 PM, andy nes wrote: Hey Sergey, Thanks for the answer. I can do what

Re: [jdev] JID Validation

2012-11-29 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] Presence information of Publishers, for Subscribers

2012-11-28 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] Presence information of Publishers, for Subscribers

2012-11-28 Thread Sergey Dobrov
that if you want to deliver it to someone who isn't there, you should do it by a separate channel. BTW, why you don't want to simply add recipients to a roster? /andy On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org mailto:bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: Create another node

Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-22 Thread Sergey Dobrov
So, can we sum up the conversation? What is the best way to handle JIDs in js for the moment? On 08/16/2012 03:23 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Can XMPP work in conformity with XMPP Core if it can't do stringprep? The question has arisen because of js that doesn't have a possibility to do

Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-20 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-17 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 08/16/2012 09:24 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 8/16/12 6:42 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Although a service like that would be helpful, it might be more productive to work on better i18n support in JavaScript. JS i18n native support is a great thing but we can't influence on it, but we can

Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-17 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 08/17/2012 10:13 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 8/17/12 9:10 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 08/16/2012 09:24 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 8/16/12 6:42 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Although a service like that would be helpful, it might be more productive to work on better i18n support

[jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-16 Thread Sergey Dobrov
with a special query to a server. Though that approach works good with several optimizations (we can stringprep on client if jid has no unicode characters, we can cache once stringprep'd jids) has obvious cons like dependence on the stringprep'ing service. -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP

Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-16 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 08/16/2012 03:33 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: Can XMPP work in conformity with XMPP Core if it can't do stringprep? The question has arisen because of js that doesn't have a possibility to do stringprep transformations

Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-16 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 08/16/2012 07:00 PM, Ralph Meijer wrote: On 2012-08-16 10:41, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 08/16/2012 03:33 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: [..] More subtle and much harder to debug is that you may be comparing JIDs using string comparisons that are the same JID in a different representation. So we

Re: [jdev] Necessity of stringprep support for the client

2012-08-16 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 08/16/2012 06:57 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 8/16/12 2:41 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 08/16/2012 03:33 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: Can XMPP work in conformity with XMPP Core if it can't do stringprep? The question

[jdev] Whiteboarding XEP

2012-06-26 Thread Sergey Dobrov
Hello guys, I am thinking of implementing some whiteboarding service for my habahaba project. However, I don't know which standard should I choose for that: * XEP-113 is deferred and provides very few functionality; * XEP-284 can be used for shared editing of SVG document, so it can be

Re: [jdev] Whiteboarding XEP

2012-06-26 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 06/27/2012 01:27 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 6/26/12 11:28 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Hello guys, I am thinking of implementing some whiteboarding service for my habahaba project. However, I don't know which standard should I choose for that: * XEP-113 is deferred and provides very few

Re: [jdev] Pubsub payload as cdata

2012-06-25 Thread Sergey Dobrov
is the best practice? Thanks ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___ -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer

Re: [jdev] Fine permissions tuning for PubSub

2012-06-25 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] Jingle WebRTC implementation

2012-05-16 Thread Sergey Dobrov
to implement SRTP: https://trac.gajim.org/ticket/7157 On 05/15/2012 07:34 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Hello, I am trying to implement Jingle in my habahaba project (http://habahaba.im/) and trying to find another Jingle implementation to test with and see that the situation with them is awful

Re: [jdev] Jingle WebRTC implementation

2012-05-16 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 05/16/2012 05:53 PM, Emil Ivov wrote: Hey there, Hello and thanks for your answer. On 16.05.12 12:42, Sergey Dobrov wrote: I have discovered that at the moment it's impossible to implement Jingle on top of WebRTC because of this bug: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/discuss

[jdev] Jingle WebRTC implementation

2012-05-15 Thread Sergey Dobrov
with SRTP support, I will be grateful. Anyone interested in the project is welcomed for the discussion. -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev

Re: [jdev] High level XMPP Javascript client

2012-04-26 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 04/26/2012 04:48 PM, Theo Cushion wrote: On 25 Apr 2012, at 17:36, Sergey Dobrov wrote: WebRTC is looking very promising. Yes, unfortunately I have no enough of time to maintain that task, I trying to involve my student into it but he's in very beginning state of javascript learning

Re: [jdev] High level XMPP Javascript client (Sergey Dobrov)

2012-04-26 Thread Sergey Dobrov
will, it's just a draft. Thanks, Michael ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___ -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov

Re: [jdev] High level XMPP Javascript client (Sergey Dobrov)

2012-04-26 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] High level XMPP Javascript client (Sergey Dobrov und Michael Weibel)

2012-04-26 Thread Sergey Dobrov
it problem? It may be better if you will add me in your jabber roster, it seems to me that you are Russian-speaken and have some difficulties in English speaking, I can speak with you in Russian there. -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder

Re: [jdev] Archive or save chat messages

2012-04-26 Thread Sergey Dobrov
search among the logs... :) -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___

Re: [jdev] Archive or save chat messages

2012-04-26 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 04/27/2012 12:00 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: On 26 April 2012 17:51, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: On 04/26/2012 10:07 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Thu Apr 26 15:47:19 2012, Sergey Dobrov wrote: You should write a module for your jabber server which will save messages for you. (some

Re: [jdev] High level XMPP Javascript client

2012-04-25 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] High level XMPP Javascript client

2012-04-25 Thread Sergey Dobrov
FeatureNotImplementedException: alert('Client does not support this feature') else: print result.some_result twilix has some problems which need some refactoring because but it's almost useful, I have several services written and working on that. Theo On 25 Apr 2012, at 16:21, Sergey Dobrov wrote

Re: [jdev] js library for client side XMPP and DNS SRV

2012-04-03 Thread Sergey Dobrov
to. -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___

Re: [jdev] Jabber-RPC and Ad-Hoc Commands

2012-02-23 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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Re: [jdev] Jabber-RPC and Ad-Hoc Commands

2012-02-23 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 02/23/2012 10:50 PM, jun fang wrote: Thanks for clarification Also, take a look on http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0146.html -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Info: http

Re: [jdev] Questions about XMPP transports dev.

2012-01-06 Thread Sergey Dobrov
know about C++ libraries myself, but the list [1] on xmpp.org has several. HTH, JT [0] http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0114.html [1] http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/libraries/ -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder

Re: [jdev] XML Namespaces validation

2011-04-17 Thread Sergey Dobrov
to be: instant) reliability is the unique selling point. Anyway, what real alternatives should be examined from the point of fast and full pubsub support? -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Info

Re: [jdev] Pubsub items' timestamps

2011-04-14 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 04/14/2011 08:17 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Old thread alert! On 11/22/10 9:11 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Why there is no way to retrieve a timestamp where an item was published? Why there are no possibility to retrieve an items that newer (or older) that specified timestamp

Re: [jdev] Pubsub items' timestamps

2011-04-14 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 04/14/2011 07:33 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Thu Apr 14 13:17:13 2011, Sergey Dobrov wrote: I have working prototype of microblogging service using PEP and Pubsub with code name LiJ. Since my initial message I had some problems and I wish to solve them but I don't know how I can interact

[jdev] XML Namespaces validation

2011-04-14 Thread Sergey Dobrov
component crashed when parsing it. Who's wrong? -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr...@jabber.org ___

Re: [jdev] XML Namespaces validation

2011-04-14 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 04/15/2011 12:13 AM, Kim Alvefur wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 23:57 +0700, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Can not find the moment in RFC. What should happen if I send stanza like this through my C2S connection: iq to=component.server.org type=get id=5 query xmlns=jabber:iq:version caps:c a=b

Re: [jdev] XML Namespaces validation

2011-04-14 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 04/15/2011 12:31 AM, Kim Alvefur wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 00:23 +0700, Sergey Dobrov wrote: Both, routing that is wrong, and crashing isn't right either. ;) What should do XEP-114 compliant component? Just drop such stanza? Close the stream with previously mentioned stream error I think

Re: [jdev] XML Namespaces validation

2011-04-14 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 04/15/2011 03:01 AM, Stephan Maka wrote: Sergey Dobrov wrote: Reconnecting after closing with a error seems sane. For the receiver this is quite an error. IM users are very annoyed by clients signing off on due to some script kiddy toying at the XML console. My point is: either

Re: [jdev] How to determine if pubsub sends publisher JID in events?

2010-11-02 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 11/03/2010 01:56 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 10/30/10 7:27 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: I have a problem with interpretation of 7.1.2.3 paragraph of XEP-60. It says: If configured to do so, the service can include the pubisher of the item when it generates event notifications. How can I

Re: [jdev] How to determine if pubsub sends publisher JID in events?

2010-11-02 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 11/03/2010 02:06 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 11/2/10 2:02 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 11/03/2010 01:56 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 10/30/10 7:27 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: I have a problem with interpretation of 7.1.2.3 paragraph of XEP-60. It says: If configured to do so

Re: [jdev] How to determine if pubsub sends publisher JID in events?

2010-11-02 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 11/03/2010 02:23 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 11/2/10 2:20 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 11/03/2010 02:06 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 11/2/10 2:02 PM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 11/03/2010 01:56 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 10/30/10 7:27 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: I have a problem

Re: [jdev] s2s implementation

2010-10-30 Thread Sergey Dobrov
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[jdev] How to determine if pubsub sends publisher JID in events?

2010-10-30 Thread Sergey Dobrov
? This is not a node configuration field? Are there any known implementations that support this feature? -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info

Re: [jdev] s2s implementation

2010-10-30 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 10/30/2010 08:27 PM, pablo platt wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Sergey Dobrov bin...@jrudevels.org mailto:bin...@jrudevels.org wrote: On 10/30/2010 08:00 PM, pablo platt wrote: Hi I understand that xmpp federation is similar to mail servers

Re: [jdev] Best ways for a JID to advertise what services it uses?

2010-10-12 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 10/09/2010 07:55 AM, Bruce Campbell wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 10/09/2010 02:05 AM, Bruce Campbell wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 09/21/2010 09:15 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Tue Sep 21 14:34:54 2010, Stephen Pendleton wrote: Right

Re: [jdev] Best ways for a JID to advertise what services it uses?

2010-10-12 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 10/13/2010 06:22 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 10/09/2010 07:55 AM, Bruce Campbell wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 10/09/2010 02:05 AM, Bruce Campbell wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 09/21/2010 09:15 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Tue Sep 21 14:34:54

Re: [jdev] Best ways for a JID to advertise what services it uses?

2010-10-10 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 10/09/2010 07:55 AM, Bruce Campbell wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 10/09/2010 02:05 AM, Bruce Campbell wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Sergey Dobrov wrote: On 09/21/2010 09:15 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: On Tue Sep 21 14:34:54 2010, Stephen Pendleton wrote: Right

Re: [jdev] Best ways for a JID to advertise what services it uses?

2010-10-08 Thread Sergey Dobrov
of applications on it. -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: jdev-unsubscr

Re: [jdev] PubSub item author info

2010-10-06 Thread Sergey Dobrov
On 10/05/2010 08:18 PM, Will Thompson wrote: Hi, On 05/10/10 14:03, Sergey Dobrov wrote: I have a question about the pubsub service described at XEP-60. Is there possibility to get information about JID who posted an item to a pubsub node? For example if I want to build blog of forum

Re: [jdev] Best ways for a JID to advertise what services it uses?

2010-10-06 Thread Sergey Dobrov
that this question should be solved by extend of the XEP-154 User profile. Suddenly, the status of the XEP is Deferred. I found that it would be very useful for me... Anyway, there is really necessity in some way to do such discovery. -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org

[jdev] PubSub item author info

2010-10-05 Thread Sergey Dobrov
can't give me such information. So pubsub is not suitable to build such services. Am I wrong? -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder. ___ JDev mailing list Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info