On Dimecres 27 Juny 2007, Matthias Wimmer wrote:
(Don't know how I created They one to have.)
I think you meant They want to have, which sounds similar when you speak
the sentence mentally before typing it ;)
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David
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Dnia 27-06-2007, śro o godzinie 15:34 +0400, Sergei Golovan napisał(a):
I didn't see any XMPP client, which requires to enter node and server
separately in send message dialogs (I did see clients which asks for
chatroom names).
Just because others had teken the easy path (for developer, not
Hi!
Could someone clarify how to escape the following JID (and to split it
into node, server and resource)?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource
I could do it in two ways:
1) user
jabber.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource
2) user\40jabber.org\27user
jabber.org
resource
Dnia 27-06-2007, śro o godzinie 12:53 +0400, Sergei Golovan napisał(a):
Could someone clarify how to escape the following JID (and to split it
into node, server and resource)?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource
This is not a JID.
(in other words: this is invalid JID)
There is no
On 6/27/07, Tomasz Sterna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dnia 27-06-2007, śro o godzinie 12:53 +0400, Sergei Golovan napisał(a):
Could someone clarify how to escape the following JID (and to split it
into node, server and resource)?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource
This is not a JID.
On 6/27/07, Sergei Golovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're right. And the question is: How to escape it? Can escaping be
done unambiguously?
Yes, but only if you already know the split.
The problem is that if I get alredy escaped JID
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource then I can unescape it
and
Dnia 27-06-2007, śro o godzinie 15:03 +0400, Sergei Golovan napisał(a):
You're right. And the question is: How to escape it? Can escaping be
done unambiguously?
Yes. You have a node, domain and resource which you need to escape
before concatenating them into JID.
The problem is that if I get
Hi Tomasz!
Tomasz Sterna schrieb:
Dnia 27-06-2007, śro o godzinie 12:53 +0400, Sergei Golovan napisał(a):
Could someone clarify how to escape the following JID (and to split it
into node, server and resource)?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource
This is not a JID.
(in other
Matthias Wimmer schrieb:
The resource is allowed to contain '@' as well as '/'. Everything behind
the first '/' character in a JID is the resource.
... but this has nothing to do with XEP-0106 BTW.
XEP-0106 is about mapping non-JID addresses in a JID. e.g. if you have a
E-Mail address, that
On 6/27/07, Norman Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/27/07, Sergei Golovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're right. And the question is: How to escape it? Can escaping be
done unambiguously?
Yes, but only if you already know the split.
So, a full unsecaped JID (with resource) can't be
On 6/27/07, Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthias Wimmer schrieb:
The resource is allowed to contain '@' as well as '/'. Everything behind
the first '/' character in a JID is the resource.
... but this has nothing to do with XEP-0106 BTW.
XEP-0106 is about mapping non-JID
Hi Sergei!
Ah okay ... it seems I start understanding what you are trying to do.
You want to map a JID (or something like that) into another JID, e.g.
for building the infamous Jabber-Jabber transport.
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
So, a full unsecaped JID (with resource) can't be split
On 6/27/07, Tomasz Sterna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dnia 27-06-2007, śro o godzinie 15:03 +0400, Sergei Golovan napisał(a):
You're right. And the question is: How to escape it? Can escaping be
done unambiguously?
Yes. You have a node, domain and resource which you need to escape
before
Hi Sergei!
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
I didn't see any XMPP client, which requires to enter node and server
separately in send message dialogs (I did see clients which asks for
chatroom names).
In address fields you will only enter escaped JIDs.
But you could for example use a Jabber service
On 6/27/07, Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sergei!
Ah okay ... it seems I start understanding what you are trying to do.
You want to map a JID (or something like that) into another JID, e.g.
for building the infamous Jabber-Jabber transport.
Not exactly. I want to implement
HI Sergei!
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
Or may be hiding real (escaped) JIDs from the user is a bad idea at all?
In fields where a general JID is expected, I'd say you should display
the full (escaped) JID. - As only this one is a JID.
The whole fuzz about escaping is just to make something a JID,
On 6/27/07, Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HI Sergei!
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
Or may be hiding real (escaped) JIDs from the user is a bad idea at all?
In fields where a general JID is expected, I'd say you should display
the full (escaped) JID. - As only this one is a JID.
The
Sergei Golovan wrote:
On 6/27/07, Norman Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/27/07, Sergei Golovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're right. And the question is: How to escape it? Can escaping be
done unambiguously?
Yes, but only if you already know the split.
So, a full unsecaped JID
Sergei Golovan wrote:
On 6/27/07, Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthias Wimmer schrieb:
The resource is allowed to contain '@' as well as '/'. Everything
behind
the first '/' character in a JID is the resource.
... but this has nothing to do with XEP-0106 BTW.
XEP-0106 is
On 6/27/07, Mridul Muralidharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not about visual representation.
xep 106 is about encoding pieces of the jid such that they are compliant
with xmpp requirements in a standard way.
Then I would like to ask who should escape JIDs and when? I don't
think that users
On 6/27/07, Mridul Muralidharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why would you want to unescape it ?
The identifier of the contact is user\40jabber.org\2fuser in xmpp world.
The node by itself conveys no meaning other than when associated with
the full jid.
Citing XEP-0106: Typically, unescaping is
Hello
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 01:11:03PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote:
On 6/27/07, Sergei Golovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're right. And the question is: How to escape it? Can escaping be
done unambiguously?
Yes, but only if you already know the split.
Is there a way the
On 6/27/07, Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The same way XEP-0106 is not about allowing nice new characters and
displaying them animated in high color and blinking. It is just for the
case a character has to be transported and cannot be used directly. Any
use of escaping should be
On 6/27/07, Michal 'vorner' Vaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 01:11:03PM +0200, Norman Rasmussen wrote:
On 6/27/07, Sergei Golovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're right. And the question is: How to escape it? Can escaping be
done unambiguously?
Yes, but
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
I would say that the introduction of the XEP clearly says that it IS
about allowing nice new characters.
I don't read it that way. I read it:
They one to have O'Hara as their username in the account backend (e.g.
the LDAP server) and they may for example log in to the
Matthias Wimmer schrieb:
They one to have O'Hara as their username in the account backend (e.g.
Please read this as:
If one wants to have ...
(Don't know how I created They one to have.)
Matthias
Hi Sergei!
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
Then I would like to ask who should escape JIDs and when? I don't
think that users will read XEP and escape desired characters.
Well escaping will mostly be done by transports. Consider the case of
the well known msn transport:
MSN has addresses of the form
On 6/27/07, Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
I would say that the introduction of the XEP clearly says that it IS
about allowing nice new characters.
I don't read it that way. I read it:
And how should one read:
The escaped JID is unescaped only for
Hi Sergei!
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
And how should one read:
The escaped JID is unescaped only for presentation to a human user
(typically by an XMPP client)?
As I explained in one of my last e-mails: someone might want to
implement a Jabber client that has an interface like Pidgin but that
On 6/27/07, Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sergei!
Sergei Golovan schrieb:
And how should one read:
The escaped JID is unescaped only for presentation to a human user
(typically by an XMPP client)?
As I explained in one of my last e-mails: someone might want to
implement a
Sergei Golovan wrote:
On 6/27/07, Mridul Muralidharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not about visual representation.
xep 106 is about encoding pieces of the jid such that they are compliant
with xmpp requirements in a standard way.
Then I would like to ask who should escape JIDs and when? I
Sergei Golovan wrote:
Hi!
Could someone clarify how to escape the following JID (and to split it
into node, server and resource)?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/resource
Why are you showing full JIDs to users? What is the use case for showing
this?
I could do it in two ways:
1)
Sergei Golovan wrote:
On 6/27/07, Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sergei!
Ah okay ... it seems I start understanding what you are trying to do.
You want to map a JID (or something like that) into another JID, e.g.
for building the infamous Jabber-Jabber transport.
Not exactly.
Matthias Wimmer wrote:
Matthias Wimmer schrieb:
The resource is allowed to contain '@' as well as '/'. Everything behind
the first '/' character in a JID is the resource.
... but this has nothing to do with XEP-0106 BTW.
XEP-0106 is about mapping non-JID addresses in a JID. e.g. if you
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