Re: Using JDK 11 instead of JDK 8 in default docker images

2021-04-28 Thread Tim Jacomb
Defaults and (people not seeing a need to change) Shipping an ‘admin monitor’ encouraging people to update would probably make a difference On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 17:18, Tim Jacomb wrote: > It’s just down to defaults I think. > > We’ve seen the numbers rise as we changed the website and helm

Re: Using JDK 11 instead of JDK 8 in default docker images

2021-04-28 Thread Tim Jacomb
It’s just down to defaults I think. We’ve seen the numbers rise as we changed the website and helm chart to use Java 11 by default On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 at 17:08, Daniel Beck wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:42 AM Oleg Nenashev > wrote: > >> I am in favor of making JDK11 the default in

Re: Using JDK 11 instead of JDK 8 in default docker images

2021-04-28 Thread Daniel Beck
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 1:42 AM Oleg Nenashev wrote: > I am in favor of making JDK11 the default in all our distributions, > including controller and agent Docker images. > At the same time I am afraid that removal of Java 1.8 support is > premature. The vast majority of Jenkins users still uses

Re: Using JDK 11 instead of JDK 8 in default docker images

2021-04-28 Thread Matt Sicker
A transition period using Java 11 Docker images with Java 8 compatibility would be useful IMO. On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 22:21, Raihaan Shouhell wrote: > > Perhaps removal of java 8 support should come with a bump in major version > number so jenkins 3.x and an announcement ahead of time. > >

Non-empty 'dynamicGerritProjects' element in job configuration XML

2021-04-28 Thread zuuukk
Hello, Could you please help to explain: What circumstances lead to the situation where for projects with dynamic gerrit trigger configuration a non-empty 'dynamicGerritProjects' element appears in configuration XML of that job/project ? What is its purpose? In one of the cases it got populated

Re: Proposal: Disabling FLoC in Jenkins and the Jenkins websites

2021-04-28 Thread Daniel Beck
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:59 AM Oleg Nenashev wrote: > Yesterday GitHub set a good precedent by disabling FLoC by default > . > I think we should do the same. > Could you

Re: Proposal: Disabling FLoC in Jenkins and the Jenkins websites

2021-04-28 Thread Damien Duportal
+1 on disabling Floc. If it introduces a problem with any of our analytics tools, it means that we should rethink these tools to ensure a proper privacy of the community and users, but I assume it's opt-out by default, and opt-in at user request's? Le mercredi 28 avril 2021 à 14:12:53 UTC+2,

Re: Proposal: Disabling FLoC in Jenkins and the Jenkins websites

2021-04-28 Thread Mark Waite
+1 that we should disable FLoC On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:59:41 AM UTC-6 Oleg Nenashev wrote: > Hi all, > > As you may have heard, Google is rolling out its FLoC (Federated Learning > of Cohorts) tracking system, for advertisement needs. This system is > enabled in Google Chrome by

Re: Proposal: Disabling FLoC in Jenkins and the Jenkins websites

2021-04-28 Thread Daniel Beck
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:58 AM Oleg Nenashev wrote: > >- Managing Jenkins usage stats. It is currently managed by flags only > > There's both a UI option and a command line flag, either is enough to disable. > >- Managing Jenkins telemetry (JEP-214 >

Re: Proposal: Disabling FLoC in Jenkins and the Jenkins websites

2021-04-28 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Hi Raihaan, > The privacy category idea is also interesting is there any other interesting settings we could offer users there? - Managing Jenkins usage stats. It is currently managed by flags only - Managing Jenkins telemetry (JEP-214

Re: Plugin end-of-life (EOL) policy

2021-04-28 Thread raihaan...@gmail.com
We should have an EOL policy as it stands we make breaking changes to Jenkins where plugins that have not been released recently are effectively disregarded. We need to set a clear line where we believe its ok to break a plugin which can perhaps be part of this EOL policy. For an EOLed plugin

Re: Proposal: Disabling FLoC in Jenkins and the Jenkins websites

2021-04-28 Thread raihaan...@gmail.com
Hey Oleg, I think this is a great suggestion. The privacy category idea is also interesting is there any other interesting settings we could offer users there? Cheers, Raihaan On Wednesday, 28 April 2021 at 16:59:41 UTC+8 Oleg Nenashev wrote: > Hi all, > > As you may have heard, Google is

Proposal: Disabling FLoC in Jenkins and the Jenkins websites

2021-04-28 Thread Oleg Nenashev
Hi all, As you may have heard, Google is rolling out its FLoC (Federated Learning of Cohorts) tracking system, for advertisement needs. This system is enabled in Google Chrome by default, and it is a corporate standard for many of the Jenkins users. They cannot easily opt out. Yesterday GitHub