Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-30 Thread Mark Waite 
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:02 AM Rich Stephens wrote:


> I would be happy to join the platform group, though I am not sure of what
> assistance I might be.  While I have used Jenkins on Linux, AIX, HPUX, and
> Windows, my experience is limited to simple master setups building a legacy
> C/C++ project.
>
>
Anyone with the skills to maintain an aging AIX environment will certainly
be able to contribute when we're evaluating platform topics.  There are
often interesting subtleties in using Jenkins on a different platform that
can help the community as a whole.

Mark Waite


> Again, thank you for your assistance.
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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-30 Thread Rich Stephens 
Mark,

I am sincerely sorry if my sense of humor offended.   I'm not sure why you 
thought I was determined to proceed on any particular path.   I was willing 
to try the master/slave route as you suggested, and I asked a further 
question as to whether I would end up having the same problem on the slave 
- then I utterly failed to comprehend your answer.   My joke was at my own 
expense and my own failure to get what you were saying.

I sincerely appreciate your efforts to assist me.

I no longer require any help on this particular topic, however, since I 
have since been able to bypass the problem by using the "JGit" mode of the 
git plugin, which does not have the problem and has worked well so far.  
Although I _am_ having one odd Java error getting thrown at the end of my 
builds (I have created a different post on this topic).   I have no idea if 
the problem would have happened using the native git open of the git 
plugin, or whether it's related to the JGit option, since I never got that 
far before.

As for my experiences using Jenkins master(s) on AIX, it is limited to this 
one machine, for the last 7 years.   It has been working fine using Java 
1.6 and Jenkins 1.5(something?) for all of that.  It was using Mercurial as 
its source repository, and our Mercural server is being retired, so I was 
mandated to move my source code to git.   I then had to go through the 
process of upgrading Jenkins and Java so I could use the git plugin.  Thus 
begins my sad tale.

As for OpenJDK, that was actually my first choice for upgrading.  I 
searched all over the OpenJDK website for a link to a download for their 
JDK8 for AIX, and could not find it.  The page I _did_ find, however, 
mentioned that OpenJDK8 supports AIX 7.1 and later.  The machine I am 
working with is on AIX 6.1, and thus could not use the OpenJDK8 port for 
AIX even if I could have found it.   I cannot upgrade this machine to AIX 
7.1.  I have to remain compatible to support AIX 6.1 because the software 
it is compiling is a legacy product for which my company still gets a 
decent amount of license revenue.

I would be happy to join the platform group, though I am not sure of what 
assistance I might be.  While I have used Jenkins on Linux, AIX, HPUX, and 
Windows, my experience is limited to simple master setups building a legacy 
C/C++ project.

Again, thank you for your assistance.

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Mark Waite 
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 2:28 PM Rich Stephens  wrote:

> It was a bit of a joke.  I’m sorry if it offended you.
> It didn’t seem to offend anyone actually involved in the conversation, but
> thanks for the tip.
>
>
That was the point where I decided to stop responding to the thread.  You
seemed determined to proceed on the path that you had chosen.  That's your
right, since it is your time that you're investing in your exploration.

I am very interested to hear more about your experiences with Jenkins
masters on AIX.  While the JDK on AIX is JDK 1.8, I believe it is using the
IBM J9 virtual machine rather than the virtual machine provided by
OpenJDK.  I expect many interesting discoveries await you in that
exploration.  I'm aware of Jenkins agents on AIX and Jenkins agents on s390
mainframes (likely all running the IBM J9 virtual machine), but am not
aware of any other users running a Jenkins master on AIX.

If you're interested in the history of the J9 virtual machine, refer to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJ9.  If you'd like to run a J9 virtual
machine on commodity hardware, refer to https://adoptopenjdk.net/ where you
can download an OpenJ9 based JDK.

If you'd like to join the Jenkins platform Special Interest Group, refer to
https://jenkins.io/sigs/platform/ .  We'd love to have your help as we work
with various platforms and explore various platforms.

Thanks!
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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Rich Stephens 
It was a bit of a joke.  I’m sorry if it offended you.
It didn’t seem to offend anyone actually involved in the conversation, but 
thanks for the tip.

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Baptiste Mathus 
Le ven. 26 avr. 2019 à 15:20, Rich Stephens  a écrit :

> I fully have no clue what you just said.
>
> "You might, but you won't have git commands executed to scan multibranch
> pipelines, since those are executed on the master."
>
> Can you translate this to English?
>

Please, beware your phrasing. That is certainly not respectful in general,
and even less to people trying to help you for free in their free time.

I suppose and hope that was just an expression misstep.

Thanks

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Rich Stephens 
If anyone's still following this, my problem has been solved by simply 
switching the the "JGit" option for the Git plugin.  It's working perfectly.

Thanks for all who provided any information they could.

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Rich Stephens 
OK, Googled "Jenkins multibranch pipeline" and "Jenkinsfile".   Still 
doesn't seem to have any bearing on my issue, but thanks for the input.

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Rich Stephens 
Again, no clue what you're talking about.

Don't know what a "multibranch pipeline" is, and don't know what a 
Jenkinsfile is and why I would have it checked into my source code, nor how 
it applies to this situation at all?

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Dirk Heinrichs 
Am Freitag, den 26.04.2019, 06:20 -0700 schrieb Rich Stephens:

"You might, but you won't have git commands executed to scan multibranch 
pipelines, since those are executed on the master."

If you have Multibranch pipelines, they will scan your git repository for 
branches containing a Jenkinsfile and dynamically create jobs for each branch 
that meets this criteria. This happens on the master. The created jobs will 
then run on whatever agent is configured in the Jenkinsfile.

HTH...

Dirk

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Rich Stephens 
I fully have no clue what you just said.

"You might, but you won't have git commands executed to scan multibranch 
pipelines, since those are executed on the master."

Can you translate this to English?   Are you saying git won't run on the 
slave AT ALL?  If not, how will it get the source code to compile?

"I assume that adjusting the environment of the agent is simpler and faster 
to test than adjusting the environment of the agent."  

I assume you mean something else, because you just pretty much said that 
you assume apples are different from apples?

"Running the master on Linux (or Windows) allows you to use the same JDK 
that is used by many Jenkins users.  That will reduce the amount of code 
that might detect problems in the IBM JDK on AIX.  It was a preventive 
suggestion for future problems, with some distant hope that it might also 
assist with this specific issue."

I am running the same JDK (at least major/minor version) on all my Jenkins 
environments.  JDK 1.8. Including this AIX one. So...

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Mark Waite 
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:06 AM Rich Stephens  wrote:

> I was thinking exactly the same thing.  I'd still have the same
> environment problem, either way.
>
>>
>>
You might, but you won't have git commands executed to scan multibranch
pipelines, since those are executed on the master.

I assume that adjusting the environment of the agent is simpler and faster
to test than adjusting the environment of the agent.

Running the master on Linux (or Windows) allows you to use the same JDK
that is used by many Jenkins users.  That will reduce the amount of code
that might detect problems in the IBM JDK on AIX.  It was a preventive
suggestion for future problems, with some distant hope that it might also
assist with this specific issue.


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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Rich Stephens 
I was thinking exactly the same thing.  I'd still have the same environment 
problem, either way.

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-26 Thread Dirk Heinrichs 
Am Donnerstag, den 25.04.2019, 14:56 -0600 schrieb Mark Waite:

and run an agent on AIX

But wouldn't that still leave him with the env problem on that agent?

Unfortunately I don't have access to an AIX host anymore, so I'm afraid I also 
can't help.

Bye...

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Re: Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-25 Thread Mark Waite 
Sorry, but no suggestions to offer on how to resolve that issue.

I would suggest that you host the Jenkins master on Linux or Windows and
run an agent on AIX.  Running the master on AIX probably places you in the
"less than 0.1% of all users" category.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 1:30 PM Rich Stephens  wrote:

> I have finally gotten Jenkins and the git plugin running (I have managed
> to upgrade to Java8).
>
> git works perfectly from the command line.
>
> If I include /opt/freeware/lib into the LIBPATH when starting jenkins,
> when I try to connect to a remove repository, I get basically this error:
>
> OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 1000105f, you have 10bf
> fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
>
> Please make sure you have the correct access rights
> and the repository exists.
>
> Coincidentally, this is the same error that I get if I include
> /opt/freeware/lib in my own LIBPATH.
>
> If I _don't_ include /opt/freeware/lib in the LIBPATH for jenkins, I get:
>
> Failed to connect to repository : Command "git ls-remote -h ssh://
> g...@stash.saas-p.com:7999/optio/core.git HEAD" returned status code 255:
> stdout:
> stderr: exec(): 0509-036 Cannot load program git because of the following
> errors:
> 0509-150   Dependent module /usr/lib/libiconv.a(libiconv.so.2) could not
> be loaded.
> 0509-152   Member libiconv.so.2 is not found in archive
>
> If I don't include it in my own LIBPATH, git works normally.
>
> I tried reproducing my own PATH and LIBPATH in the startup script for git,
> but still no joy.  I get the second error.
>
>
> Obviously there is some sort of environment issue with jenkins, but I
> can't figure out what it is.
> Any thoughts?
>
>
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Odd environment problem with git under Jenkins on AIX

2019-04-25 Thread Rich Stephens 
I have finally gotten Jenkins and the git plugin running (I have managed to 
upgrade to Java8).

git works perfectly from the command line.

If I include /opt/freeware/lib into the LIBPATH when starting jenkins, when 
I try to connect to a remove repository, I get basically this error:

OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 1000105f, you have 10bf
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository exists.

Coincidentally, this is the same error that I get if I include 
/opt/freeware/lib in my own LIBPATH.

If I _don't_ include /opt/freeware/lib in the LIBPATH for jenkins, I get:

Failed to connect to repository : Command "git ls-remote -h 
ssh://g...@stash.saas-p.com:7999/optio/core.git HEAD" returned status code 
255:
stdout:
stderr: exec(): 0509-036 Cannot load program git because of the following 
errors:
0509-150   Dependent module /usr/lib/libiconv.a(libiconv.so.2) could not be 
loaded.
0509-152   Member libiconv.so.2 is not found in archive 

If I don't include it in my own LIBPATH, git works normally.

I tried reproducing my own PATH and LIBPATH in the startup script for git, 
but still no joy.  I get the second error.


Obviously there is some sort of environment issue with jenkins, but I can't 
figure out what it is.
Any thoughts?







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