Re: Windows Desktop OS or Server OS is good for Jenkins master

[Simon Richter]

Hi,

On 16.04.2018 12:03, LnT wrote:

> Actually we will be providing Windows VMs. Not Linux.
> Hence looking for a piece of advice.  - *Desktop OS or ServerOS ?*

Desktop forces a reboot to install updates, which is not coordinated
with running services. Jenkins really doesn't handle shutdowns well if
you didn't make sure beforehand that no builds are running. Expect
spurious build failures, builds missing from the list and incomplete
artifact archives.

Server allows you to run updates manually, but someone needs to do that
and synchronize it with Jenkins, which is administration effort for
either you or your customers. This should be scriptable most likely, so
not all hope is lost.

If you really want to provide a turnkey solution, I hate to say it, but
Docker is the best idea, because it allows you to prepare an updated
base system image or Jenkins installation without affecting the running
instances, then you schedule a shutdown inside Jenkins and restart with
minimal downtime.

I'm not sure how far along Docker on Windows is these days though. MS
sells it as a solution so it's probably not all bad, but I know no one
actually using it.

   Simon

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RE: Windows Desktop OS or Server OS is good for Jenkins master

[John.Peterson]

We use ServerOS.  We have four running systems worldwide so far.  Server 2012 
and 2016 with no server related issues on any.  I don’t know any reason that 
Server would be required however for any of the below…

All are now running Windows Server as VM’s on ESXi 6.5 Hosts.

ESXi 6.5 Host
Windows Server 2012/16
vCenter (if ESXi fails to start you can bypass 
vCenter anyway, so it being hosted on the machine it admins is not an issue)
Jenkins
Windows Server 2012/16
Visual SVN
Windows Server 2012/16
VS 2012/15/17 Build servers (running Cruise 
Control, but talking about switching to Jenkins)

John E. Peterson
ASW Quality Program Manager
john.peter...@nikon.com
Tel: +1 (810) 220-4360
Fax: +1 (810) 220-4300

Nikon Metrology, Inc.
631 Bear Run Lane
Lewis Center, OH  43035
USA
www.nikonmetrology.com



From: jenkinsci-users@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of LnT
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:04 AM
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Subject: Re: Windows Desktop OS or Server OS is good for Jenkins master


Thanks Dirk.
Actually we will be providing Windows VMs. Not Linux.
Hence looking for a piece of advice.  - Desktop OS or ServerOS ?





On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 2:25:17 PM UTC+5:30, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
From: jenkins...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:jenkins...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LnT
> Is Windows Desktop OS VM good or Server OS VM is good for Jenkins 
> installation ?

No, none of them. Despite the "Server" part in the name even Windows Server 
isn't a (good) server OS (file locks, desktop popups, slow filesystem, etc). 
We've just migrated away from a Windows based Jenkins master to a Linux based 
one a few months ago and all those problems are gone now. Do yourself a favour 
and avoid Windows if you can...

Just my 2 cents.

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: Windows Desktop OS or Server OS is good for Jenkins master

[LnT]

Thanks Dirk.
Actually we will be providing Windows VMs. Not Linux.
Hence looking for a piece of advice.  - *Desktop OS or ServerOS ?*





On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 2:25:17 PM UTC+5:30, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

> *From:* jenkins...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> jenkins...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *LnT
>
> > Is Windows *Desktop OS VM* good or *Server OS VM* is good for Jenkins 
> installation ?
>
>  
>
> No, none of them. Despite the "Server" part in the name even Windows 
> Server isn't a (good) server OS (file locks, desktop popups, slow 
> filesystem, etc). We've just migrated away from a Windows based Jenkins 
> master to a Linux based one a few months ago and all those problems are 
> gone now. Do yourself a favour and avoid Windows if you can...
>
>  
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>  
>
> Bye...
>
>  
>
> Dirk
>
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