Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] In the name of Adivasi

2008-08-20 Thread ven
Hansdah I absolutely agree with you. I believe there should be no outside coercion of any kind be it culture, language or religion on adivasis, but rather the state should allow for maximum indigenious expression. I believe if the welfare of tribals is one area India has totally failed. But you

[ = Jharkhand = ] letter from BJP (Shri L.K. Advani)

2008-08-14 Thread ven
This letter is not written by L.K. Advani, Please dont get confused over it. Thank you. - JF's Moderator +++ --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Lal Krishna Advani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] Discussion Documentary Screening on Chengara’s Land Struggle (Today @ 5pm

2008-08-14 Thread ven
Jharkhand group has been transformed into a church group? Isaac, Williams, Cedric ... are we in India? What is going on? On 8/14/08, isaac verghese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you guys know that Kumar went to Chengara personally, counted the number of heads and came up with this:

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] Re: Statement By CONCERNED CITIZENS OF GUJARAT on BOMB BLASTS(31st July,2008)

2008-08-08 Thread ven
Dear Jyoti There are others who stay in Gujarat who have quite the opposite opinion of yours. By the way I don't see any religion why Hinduism cannot be the priviliege religion in India. As long as we have Hindus and Hinduism around we can be assured of democracy, vibrant secularism, religious

RELIGION: Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] history of the elite Brotherhood

2008-08-06 Thread ven
Dear Arnab Can you give some references for our comment Hindu fanaticism has destroyed centuries of Buddhist scholarship in ancient universities in India during the Hindu revival. While there may have been isolated incidences of intolerance -- generally buddhist, jain, hindus lived side by side

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] Re: Statement By CONCERNED CITIZENS OF GUJARAT on BOMB BLASTS(31st July,2008)

2008-08-06 Thread ven
The real rabble rouser is cedric, agent of vatican. He compares S Kumar to hitler and goebbels not realizing that the anti semitisim and jewish holocaust committed by the Nazis has its roots in the traditional Christian hatred for Jews since they are consider the killers of jews. So if anything

Re: RELIGION: Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] history of the elite Brotherhood

2008-08-06 Thread ven
| Jharkhand Blog | Jharkhand Video | Jharkhand Network Sorry if I sound snobbish but as a trained and practicing anthropologist I do not need references from Wikipedia to refute an argument!! On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Arnab Can you give some

[ = Jharkhand = ] The Maoist threat: lies, white lies and statistics

2008-07-23 Thread ven
The Maoist threat: lies, white lies and statistics http://www.kalingatimes.com/views/news_20080327-maoist.htm By P.V. Ramana The Indian home ministry never tires of finding newer classifications to

[ = Jharkhand = ] jharkhand: Tribal weds Muslim, MLA orders boycott

2008-07-11 Thread ven
Tribal weds Muslim, MLA orders boycott Pankaj Kumar , Hindustan Times Dhanbad, July 08, 2008

[ = Jharkhand = ] Phulbani: Tension over cow slaughter in Tumudibandh

2008-07-08 Thread ven
*Tension over cow slaughter in Tumudibandh* *http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=1theme=usrsess=1id=212289 * PHULBANI, July 8: CRPF has been deployed in Tumudibandh area following tension due to protests by a section of the people against cow slaughter. The agitated section of people

[ = Jharkhand = ] Tribes of Jharkhand: Impact of Christianity

2008-07-07 Thread ven
*Great article. * ** *IMPACT OF CHRISTIANITY ON THE TRIBES OF JHARKHAND * by R.Upadhyay http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers6/paper511.html The present state of Jharkhand, which was carved out of Bihar in November 2000, is a part of Chotanagpur plateau of Indian peninsula. Its complex social

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] christian presentation of tribal worship

2008-07-07 Thread ven
Rashmi You are right. Christian missionaries paint native non christian beliefs and customs in the most hurting, obnoxious terms. Here is one christian presentation of tribal worship. Christian missionaries are quite proud to put down other beliefs ..its all over the net.

[ = Jharkhand = ] Karnataka Math deals with naxalism by creating amenities in naxal-affected areas

2008-07-06 Thread ven
Something other states such as jharkhand, orissa, chhattisgarh can learn from? *Pejavar Math to create amenities in naxal-affected areas* http://www.hindu.com/2008/07/06/stories/2008070658910300.htm Staff Correspondent MANGALORE: Pejavar Math will create amenities in the naxal-afected areas in

[ = Jharkhand = ] Is it too late for Jharkhand's adivasis?

2008-06-30 Thread ven
Is it too late for Jharkhand's adivasis? http://www.indiatogether.org/2007/jan/soc-waqtfilm.htm There is this growing feeling among the adivasis of Jharkhand that in this newly created state, given to them only in name, they stand at the crossroads, runs the commentary in Ab Aur Waqt Nahin, a

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] Respose to mail of S. Kumar

2008-06-30 Thread ven
an analysis of Mr. Ven (or whatever his real name is). I really admire the guts of these upper caste people No religious community or ethnic community can match the kind of crimes committed against Dalits by so called upper caste hindus since thousands of years and yet they have the gall to point

[ = Jharkhand = ] Ministers love foreign tours, but little changes in Jharkhand

2008-06-07 Thread ven
What we need is a committed CM like Modi. He works 24 hours for the well being of his state and look at the magic of development he has created in Gujarat. *Ministers love foreign tours, but little changes in Jharkhand *

[ = Jharkhand = ] Why farmers can get no labour

2008-05-31 Thread ven
Why farmers can get no labour http://specials.rediff.com/news/2008/may/29sld01.htm The co-existence of labour shortage and unemployment has long confounded economists. Currently, it is confounding Indian farmers. Not just in Punjab and Haryana or

[ = Jharkhand = ] Spurt in Maoists activities in Jharkhand: Intelligence sources

2008-05-30 Thread ven
Spurt in Maoists activities: Intelligence sources http://www.dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=RANCHIfile_name=Ranchi3%2Etxtcounter_img=3 *Rajiv | Ranchi* Belying the claims of the State Government that Jharkhand is not under the grip of the ultra-left outfits and some of the

[ = Jharkhand = ] NGO activism in Orissa: Boon or bane?

2008-05-19 Thread ven
*NGO activism in Orissa: Boon or bane?* http://www.kalingatimes.com/views/news_20080517_NGO_activism_in_Orissa_Boon_or_bane.htm By Saroj Mishra Orissa is the land of NGOs. The presence of a large number of NGOs should ideally lead to greater awareness about public causes and significant reduction

Re: FW: [ = Jharkhand = ] who has taken our Lands: The Anglo Indians of McCluskiegunj

2008-05-16 Thread ven
On 5/16/08, BARBARA ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Dear Advocate, Find out more, here is a lead, get in touch with Mr Ray Barnes and help us, we are but humble Anglos Indians made by the British and the Indians of the days of old, not logn ago Yet no one is there to ask or find out

[ = Jharkhand = ] Chopper for anti-Maoist operations flies ministers instead

2008-05-15 Thread ven
Chopper for anti-Maoist operations flies ministers instead http://in.news.yahoo.com/indiaabroad/20080515/r_t_ians_nl_politics/tnl-chopper-for-anti-maoist-operations-f-a4b7bec.html Thu, May 15 10:35 AM Ranchi, May 15 (IANS) The Jharkhand government shelled out Rs.350 million on a helicopter to be

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] My language

2008-05-13 Thread ven
PS I corrected an error in my previous mail and this is the rectified version. On 5/12/08, N Dear Jharkhand listserve members I would like to mention that the intemperate language I am using against the khakhi knicker wallahs on the listserve is not my normal mode of communication, nor

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] Re: TERROR ATTACK: Jaipur serial blasts kill 70, injure 150

2008-05-13 Thread ven
Gladson I am directly appealing to people affected by violent idealogies. Your sympathies with violent movements is well known. So is your extreme Hindu hatred. I refuse to let alien beliefs and their followers destroy India and its indigenuous cultures and people. I have nothing to do with

[ = Jharkhand = ] Adivasis see through Jharkhand promise (1999)

2008-05-12 Thread ven
Interesting 1999 article, prior to formation of Jharkhand state. *Adivasis see through Jharkhand promise *Tara Shankar Sahay in Ranchi http://www.rediff.com/election/1999/sep/23bihar.htm The hardsell for a separate Jharkhand state by the Bharatiya Janata Party and the Congress does not fool

[ = Jharkhand = ] Jharkhand : A treasure of herbal plants and forest produce

2008-05-12 Thread ven
*Jharkhand : A treasure of herbal plants and forest produce *http://ranchiexpress.com/herbal/ *Going by the percentage of green cover over the state of Jharkhand, even if the people started purely living on the industries based on herbal plants and other forest produce, the prosperity would rain

[ = Jharkhand = ] Tribal groups shift loyalty to Maoists: Study

2008-05-09 Thread ven
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Patna/Tribal_groups_shift_loyalty_to_Maoists_Study/articleshow/3023656.cms Tribal groups shift loyalty to Maoists: Study 9 May 2008, 0615 hrs IST,Dipak Mishra,TNN PATNA: A recent survey conducted by the state department of SC and ST welfare on the Status of

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] RE: [ Jharkhand ] Conversion law : Let us move on

2008-05-08 Thread ven
do for the betterment of the Humanity which is all above of the religion, caste, creed, gender, regionalism and list goes on. rgds Gladson Dungdung On Fri, 02 May 2008 ven wrote : Nachiketa Why don't you migrate and take your anti tribal

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] Evangelist martyred for Christ in Jharkhand

2008-05-08 Thread ven
On 5/8/08, North Eastern Social Research Centre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not different from your one agenda mission of Christian bashing Walter Walter, ther is a need to expose the covert missionary agenda of destoying people's native religion. We Indians do not wish to lose our gods,

Re: RE: [ = Jharkhand = ] Conversion law violation is a criminal offence

2008-05-04 Thread ven
Why? Why should Arnab.s lwft wing and other anti Hindu/RSS hate messages go through. What is their agenda here. The only condition is messages should be relevant. Esther just poste something absolute anti-Hindu regpugnant stuff from superhindus wordpress. Did I complain, asking for moderation,

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] Correlation between extremism and poverty

2008-05-01 Thread ven
There is another way to look at this problem. Naxalites concentrate on poor areas and take advantage of the people's poverty to promote their anti-national agenda. Many a times the victims are tribals. So it wrong to say Naxalism grows in such areas. It is very similar to how missionaries

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] RE: [ Jharkhand ] Conversion law : Mahatma Gandhi on Conversions

2008-05-01 Thread ven
People who want to supress discussions on missionary activities have their own hidden agenda. Tribals in Jharkhand possess tremendous knowledge about their environment. They are the guardians of the land. They know the medicinal plants, the animals, the local culture, the gods, they will

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] Conversion and Adivasi poverty

2008-05-01 Thread ven
entering Gujarat! Now what will we do if Venki converts Gladson to Jainism? Will they arrest Gladson or Venki? And Prabir--- On Sat, 4/26/08, ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ahvenkitesh%40gmail.com ahvenkitesh%2540gmail.com wrote: I believe such a law such be enacted

[ = Jharkhand = ] Maoist blow up government building in Jharkhand

2008-05-01 Thread ven
If tourism suffers, the locals suffer. The maoists want to get rid of the governmetn, frighten all investments so that they can rule the tribals at their will. It is all about power. Maoists are violent criminals and will kill anyone opposed to their violent agenda. *Maoist blow up government

Re: [ = Jharkhand = ] RE: [ Jharkhand ] Conversion law : Mahatma Gandhi on Conversions

2008-05-01 Thread ven
Nachiketa Why don't you migrate and take your anti tribal religion..proc christian agenda somewhere else? Why don't you tell the Christian missionaires to offer service without attempting to destroy native religins and gods and beliefs. Tell them to only concentrate on development and not mix it

[ = Jharkhand = ] Conversion law violation is a criminal offence

2008-04-26 Thread ven
*I believe such a law such be enacted in Jharkhand as soon as possible since the state is plagued by unethical conversions of the poor.* *Conversion law violation is a criminal offence*

[ = Jharkhand = ] The 'business' of Maoist movement in India

2008-04-20 Thread ven
The Raison D'tere of the maoist movement is force The force poor people/tribals to contribute money, family members, village members or face retaliation. It is all sheer terror. But we still have ignorant folks believing this movement to represent the wishes and aspirations of the poor and