On 10/02/2021 21:44, Gunnar Morling wrote:
Hi Alan,

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. The use case I'd see for layers
within jlink images is isolation of different (transitive) dependency
versions within an application. While this isn't present (and I
understand it'd add a fair share of complexity), we can work around
this by putting the modules of different layers into a separate
directory and use this as source for the layers running on top of the
JDK modules from the image. We might envision some tooling support for
creating such "extended" jlink image.
It would need a lot of consideration and exploration before going there. One reason for having different versions of a module in the run-time image might be to support different initial modules, say a run-time image containing two distinct applications or tools. Both would run with in flat name space but for whatever reason can't use the same version of some module. At the other extreme might be launching an application that is magically started with several layers and different versions of modules in each layer. Somewhere in the middle is a container in the boot layer and at run-time it uses the APIs to create module layers. The set of observable modules that it uses when creating the configurations for these modules layer is some subset of the modules in the run-time image that include modules that weren't observable at startup when creating the boot layer.




Btw. when exploring dynamic plug-in layers and their interaction with
services, we noticed that you'll also get services provided by parent
layers. This leads to code patterns like shown here:

     
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I.e. you need to filter out all those service implementations from
parent layers. It would be nice if there was a flavour of load()
(perhaps just a boolean flag "includeParentLayers"), which would make
this a bit simpler. Also, IIUC, the code using the service loader
needs to have awareness of the fact that it runs within layers, as the
traditional load() methods wouldn't find any implementations from
parent layers, which might present a migration obstacle when moving
existing libraries to layered architectures.
The load(ModuleLayer, service) is specified to load service providers in the given layer and its ancestors. That is consistent with the load method that takes a ClassLoader as that has always been specified to use the class loaders that are reachable via parent delegation.

The stream() method might be useful for the example as you could use a filter to selects providers in the desired layer.

What parent class loader do you specify to defineModulesXXXX when you are creating the module layers? I'm asking because the traditional ServiceLoader.load will locate providers in named modules when the class loader specified to the method has modules in a module layer. This goes for class loaders that are reachable via parent delegation too. When Layrry creates a layer with defineModulesXXXX then it must specify the parent class loader for the resulting class loaders. If you choose one of the class loaders from the layer parent (any of them will do) then it might get more of the traditional usages of ServiceLoader.load working.

-Alan


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