Re: SVN migration
On 8/3/05, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/08/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 2 aren't a problem, two do seem to be a problem. Looking at the files > > involved in the missing tags, I suspect it's not a huge problem, but > > it's disquieting to have failings. I'll join the SVN mailing list > > tomorrow and send it through as a bug report. > > Thanks! Went with a simpler approach. I tried the genius idea of looking at the error output from the cvs2svn command, and we get: Looking at the cvs2svn output, it gives the error: WARNING: in 'jakarta-jmeter/README,v': branch '1.1.1' already has name 'JavaApache', cannot also have name 'arelease', ignoring the latter WARNING: in 'jakarta-jmeter/README,v': branch '1.1.1' already has name 'JavaApache', cannot also have name 'jmeter1_0b1', ignoring the latter I'm asking on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (enough svn people lurk there) to see if they can explain what the warnings mean. I suspect it'll either be that SVN can't support the CVS feature or that CVS had created slightly screwed up ,v files (seen it happen on the ASF CVS modules). Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
The only pain I ever had building the client from source was remembering to make sure SSL was installed before-hand. Building the server was a different story, I found it very painful. I'll try to find the configuration line I was using to build from source. It was pretty simple. Hen On 8/3/05, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did yesterday. It failed as did subclipse, and I searched mandrake > updates for a subversion rpm and came up empty. I could probably pull > an rpm off the internet somewhere, but then I'm sure I'd have about 50 > billion dependencies to also track down. I prefer to wait till mandrake > pulls it together in its distro to avoid that hassle. > > -Mike > > On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 15:16 +0100, sebb wrote: > > Assuming you can use Eclipse on Mandrke, you could perhaps try JavaSVN ? > > > > http://tmate.org/svn/ > > and > > http://subclipse.tigris.org/ > > > > S. > > On 03/08/05, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'll have to wait till Mandrake starts to include subversion and its > > > clients. Hopefully that'll happen before the deadline, eh? > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 00:45 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > > On 8/2/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > thanks. which subversion client or eclipse plugin are people using on > > > > > linux and windows? > > > > > > > > On linux I used to build from source, but now the latest distro's seem > > > > to come with it on the CD (at least SuSE 9.2 did). > > > > > > > > OS X I again built from source, but there's now an easy install binary > > > > available. > > > > > > > > Hen > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
I did yesterday. It failed as did subclipse, and I searched mandrake updates for a subversion rpm and came up empty. I could probably pull an rpm off the internet somewhere, but then I'm sure I'd have about 50 billion dependencies to also track down. I prefer to wait till mandrake pulls it together in its distro to avoid that hassle. -Mike On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 15:16 +0100, sebb wrote: > Assuming you can use Eclipse on Mandrke, you could perhaps try JavaSVN ? > > http://tmate.org/svn/ > and > http://subclipse.tigris.org/ > > S. > On 03/08/05, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll have to wait till Mandrake starts to include subversion and its > > clients. Hopefully that'll happen before the deadline, eh? > > > > -Mike > > > > On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 00:45 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > On 8/2/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > thanks. which subversion client or eclipse plugin are people using on > > > > linux and windows? > > > > > > On linux I used to build from source, but now the latest distro's seem > > > to come with it on the CD (at least SuSE 9.2 did). > > > > > > OS X I again built from source, but there's now an easy install binary > > > available. > > > > > > Hen > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
Assuming you can use Eclipse on Mandrke, you could perhaps try JavaSVN ? http://tmate.org/svn/ and http://subclipse.tigris.org/ S. On 03/08/05, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll have to wait till Mandrake starts to include subversion and its > clients. Hopefully that'll happen before the deadline, eh? > > -Mike > > On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 00:45 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > > On 8/2/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > thanks. which subversion client or eclipse plugin are people using on > > > linux and windows? > > > > On linux I used to build from source, but now the latest distro's seem > > to come with it on the CD (at least SuSE 9.2 did). > > > > OS X I again built from source, but there's now an easy install binary > > available. > > > > Hen > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
I'll have to wait till Mandrake starts to include subversion and its clients. Hopefully that'll happen before the deadline, eh? -Mike On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 00:45 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > On 8/2/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > thanks. which subversion client or eclipse plugin are people using on > > linux and windows? > > On linux I used to build from source, but now the latest distro's seem > to come with it on the CD (at least SuSE 9.2 did). > > OS X I again built from source, but there's now an easy install binary > available. > > Hen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
On 03/08/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/2/05, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 02/08/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Done: > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/ > > > > > > svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/trunk jmeter > > > > Works OK, and files compare OK with CVS HEAD. > > > > > How does that look? > > > > > > > Comparing the lists of tags in CVS and SVN shows that SVN has an extra > > tag "initial" - is this is normal? > > Initial is on: > > test/src/org/apache/jorphan/math/TestStatCalculator.java,v: OK, I see. I did not pick up all the possible CVS tags ... > > > Comparing the branches shows several differences: > > > > arelease - in CVS but not SVN > > From a CVS import, but no idea why the migration didn't pick it up. > There are half a dozen files that should have been in this. > > > jmeter1_0b1 - ditto > > Seems to be exactly the same files/versions as arelease. Again I've > not had this problem before. > > ./src/Attic/Makefile.bat,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; > ./src/Attic/Makefile,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; > ./bin/Attic/jmeter.sh,v:jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; > Binary file ./bin/Attic/Apache-JMeter.jar,v matches > ./bin/jmeter.bat,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; > ./Attic/index.html,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; > ./README,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; > > > > jakarta - in SVN but not CVS > > TestStatCalculator again. I think Mike did a cvs import on this file > with jakarta as the vendor name and initial as the release. OK, as above. > > > Is this normal? > > 2 aren't a problem, two do seem to be a problem. Looking at the files > involved in the missing tags, I suspect it's not a huge problem, but > it's disquieting to have failings. I'll join the SVN mailing list > tomorrow and send it through as a bug report. Thanks! > Hen > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
On 8/2/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks. which subversion client or eclipse plugin are people using on > linux and windows? On linux I used to build from source, but now the latest distro's seem to come with it on the CD (at least SuSE 9.2 did). OS X I again built from source, but there's now an easy install binary available. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
On 8/2/05, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 02/08/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Done: > > Thanks! > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/ > > > > svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/trunk jmeter > > Works OK, and files compare OK with CVS HEAD. > > > How does that look? > > > > Comparing the lists of tags in CVS and SVN shows that SVN has an extra > tag "initial" - is this is normal? Initial is on: test/src/org/apache/jorphan/math/TestStatCalculator.java,v: > Comparing the branches shows several differences: > > arelease - in CVS but not SVN >From a CVS import, but no idea why the migration didn't pick it up. There are half a dozen files that should have been in this. > jmeter1_0b1 - ditto Seems to be exactly the same files/versions as arelease. Again I've not had this problem before. ./src/Attic/Makefile.bat,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; ./src/Attic/Makefile,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; ./bin/Attic/jmeter.sh,v:jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; Binary file ./bin/Attic/Apache-JMeter.jar,v matches ./bin/jmeter.bat,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; ./Attic/index.html,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; ./README,v: jmeter1_0b1:1.1.1; > jakarta - in SVN but not CVS TestStatCalculator again. I think Mike did a cvs import on this file with jakarta as the vendor name and initial as the release. > Is this normal? 2 aren't a problem, two do seem to be a problem. Looking at the files involved in the missing tags, I suspect it's not a huge problem, but it's disquieting to have failings. I'll join the SVN mailing list tomorrow and send it through as a bug report. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
On 02/08/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Done: Thanks! > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/ > > svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/trunk jmeter Works OK, and files compare OK with CVS HEAD. > How does that look? > Comparing the lists of tags in CVS and SVN shows that SVN has an extra tag "initial" - is this is normal? Comparing the branches shows several differences: arelease - in CVS but not SVN jmeter1_0b1 - ditto jakarta - in SVN but not CVS Is this normal? S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
Subclipse 0.9.31 - just updated to 0.9.32. On 02/08/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks. which subversion client or eclipse plugin are people using on > linux and windows? > > > peter lin > > On 8/2/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Done: > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/ > > > > svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/trunk jmeter > > > > How does that look? > > > > Hen > > > > On 8/2/05, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 26/07/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 1/4/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > like wise I have no experience with subversion so I am voting > > > > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > > I'm inclined to stick with CVS, though I will d/l subversion and give > > > > > it a try in the next few weeks for myself. > > > > > > > > You might have noticed that the Infra management team have come up > > > > with a date to turn off CVS (Jan 1st 2006). I've been doing some of > > > > the recent suversion migrations myself, and jakarta-jmeter looks > > > > pretty easy. > > > > > > > > If you'd like, I can have a test version up and running very quickly > > > > so you can test out installed clients etc. > > > > > > > > Thought I'd make the offer :) > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > I recently ran a Perl script over the Entries files that has hopefully > > > picked up any incorrect ascii/binary settings (and I fixed some it > > > found), so I guess a test version would be the next logical step. > > > > > > S. > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
On 2-Aug-05, at 2:39 PM, Peter Lin wrote: thanks. which subversion client or eclipse plugin are people using on linux and windows? peter lin Windows users in our office use Tortoise SVN client. Mac users use svnX Regards, Tyler Black Enterprise Systems Developer How2Share Technologies Inc. www.h2st.com / www.pixpo.com
Re: SVN migration
thanks. which subversion client or eclipse plugin are people using on linux and windows? peter lin On 8/2/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Done: > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/ > > svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/trunk jmeter > > How does that look? > > Hen > > On 8/2/05, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 26/07/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 1/4/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > like wise I have no experience with subversion so I am voting > > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > I'm inclined to stick with CVS, though I will d/l subversion and give > > > > it a try in the next few weeks for myself. > > > > > > You might have noticed that the Infra management team have come up > > > with a date to turn off CVS (Jan 1st 2006). I've been doing some of > > > the recent suversion migrations myself, and jakarta-jmeter looks > > > pretty easy. > > > > > > If you'd like, I can have a test version up and running very quickly > > > so you can test out installed clients etc. > > > > > > Thought I'd make the offer :) > > > > Thanks! > > > > I recently ran a Perl script over the Entries files that has hopefully > > picked up any incorrect ascii/binary settings (and I fixed some it > > found), so I guess a test version would be the next logical step. > > > > S. > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
Done: http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/ svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/jmeter/trunk jmeter How does that look? Hen On 8/2/05, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26/07/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/4/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > like wise I have no experience with subversion so I am voting > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > I'm inclined to stick with CVS, though I will d/l subversion and give > > > it a try in the next few weeks for myself. > > > > You might have noticed that the Infra management team have come up > > with a date to turn off CVS (Jan 1st 2006). I've been doing some of > > the recent suversion migrations myself, and jakarta-jmeter looks > > pretty easy. > > > > If you'd like, I can have a test version up and running very quickly > > so you can test out installed clients etc. > > > > Thought I'd make the offer :) > > Thanks! > > I recently ran a Perl script over the Entries files that has hopefully > picked up any incorrect ascii/binary settings (and I fixed some it > found), so I guess a test version would be the next logical step. > > S. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
On 26/07/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/4/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > like wise I have no experience with subversion so I am voting > > > > 0 > > > > I'm inclined to stick with CVS, though I will d/l subversion and give > > it a try in the next few weeks for myself. > > You might have noticed that the Infra management team have come up > with a date to turn off CVS (Jan 1st 2006). I've been doing some of > the recent suversion migrations myself, and jakarta-jmeter looks > pretty easy. > > If you'd like, I can have a test version up and running very quickly > so you can test out installed clients etc. > > Thought I'd make the offer :) Thanks! I recently ran a Perl script over the Entries files that has hopefully picked up any incorrect ascii/binary settings (and I fixed some it found), so I guess a test version would be the next logical step. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
On 1/4/05, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > like wise I have no experience with subversion so I am voting > > 0 > > I'm inclined to stick with CVS, though I will d/l subversion and give > it a try in the next few weeks for myself. You might have noticed that the Infra management team have come up with a date to turn off CVS (Jan 1st 2006). I've been doing some of the recent suversion migrations myself, and jakarta-jmeter looks pretty easy. If you'd like, I can have a test version up and running very quickly so you can test out installed clients etc. Thought I'd make the offer :) Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE]Re: SVN migration
like wise I'm -1 for the change, since it's a lot of work to switch over. I still haven't had time to try out the subversion plugin for eclipse. given a choice between being productive and developing or spending lots of time re-organizing, I prefer to code. I'm not set in stone or anything, just my own personal preference. I understand it's a lot of work to maintain the infrastructure, so it's up to everyone to reach a compromise. peter On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:35:36 -0500, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 13:52, Henri Yandell wrote: > > On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:06:09 -0500, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > My own vote on it was going to be -1, for basically the same reason > > > everyone else voted +0. There is just no reason for us to want to move > > > to subversion. > > > > > > But, since we're apparently not being given a choice, I suggest we move > > > to subversion after finalizing the 2.0 branch. > > > > I've got to watch my mouth here :) It's hard to make sure I'm not > > pressurising or under-reporting an issue when I'm being a middleman. > > > > The choice is completely there. I need to reword my aim of getting > > Jakarta into SVN this quarter to be the more realistic "getting all of > > Jakarta to consider SVN this quarter". There are some gains on the > > client-side, and some losses for tightly-focused IDE users (you lose > > synchronise repository functionality in Eclipse for example). > > Then I will vote -1 on any switch until the subversion clients have at > least the functionality of the cvs clients. > > > The > > Infra guys have much more in the way of gains over losses, so from > > their point of view it's a much easier choice. > > > > That said, if the subcommunity has absolutely no interest in moving, > > it's a disservice if I make it look as though you're being pushed. I > > assume the time will come in a year or so when the infrastructure > > group start talking about wanting to get everyone out of CVS as there > > are so few left (and CVS is already in a minority), but things can > > wait until then. > > > > I'll start to maintain a list of "Want to stay in CVS for the near > > future", and the general response on this thread suggests I should put > > JMeter on it. > > > > Hen > -- > Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Apache Software Foundation > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE]Re: SVN migration
On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 13:52, Henri Yandell wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:06:09 -0500, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My own vote on it was going to be -1, for basically the same reason > > everyone else voted +0. There is just no reason for us to want to move > > to subversion. > > > > But, since we're apparently not being given a choice, I suggest we move > > to subversion after finalizing the 2.0 branch. > > I've got to watch my mouth here :) It's hard to make sure I'm not > pressurising or under-reporting an issue when I'm being a middleman. > > The choice is completely there. I need to reword my aim of getting > Jakarta into SVN this quarter to be the more realistic "getting all of > Jakarta to consider SVN this quarter". There are some gains on the > client-side, and some losses for tightly-focused IDE users (you lose > synchronise repository functionality in Eclipse for example). Then I will vote -1 on any switch until the subversion clients have at least the functionality of the cvs clients. > The > Infra guys have much more in the way of gains over losses, so from > their point of view it's a much easier choice. > > That said, if the subcommunity has absolutely no interest in moving, > it's a disservice if I make it look as though you're being pushed. I > assume the time will come in a year or so when the infrastructure > group start talking about wanting to get everyone out of CVS as there > are so few left (and CVS is already in a minority), but things can > wait until then. > > I'll start to maintain a list of "Want to stay in CVS for the near > future", and the general response on this thread suggests I should put > JMeter on it. > > Hen -- Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Apache Software Foundation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE]Re: SVN migration
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:06:09 -0500, Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My own vote on it was going to be -1, for basically the same reason > everyone else voted +0. There is just no reason for us to want to move > to subversion. > > But, since we're apparently not being given a choice, I suggest we move > to subversion after finalizing the 2.0 branch. I've got to watch my mouth here :) It's hard to make sure I'm not pressurising or under-reporting an issue when I'm being a middleman. The choice is completely there. I need to reword my aim of getting Jakarta into SVN this quarter to be the more realistic "getting all of Jakarta to consider SVN this quarter". There are some gains on the client-side, and some losses for tightly-focused IDE users (you lose synchronise repository functionality in Eclipse for example). The Infra guys have much more in the way of gains over losses, so from their point of view it's a much easier choice. That said, if the subcommunity has absolutely no interest in moving, it's a disservice if I make it look as though you're being pushed. I assume the time will come in a year or so when the infrastructure group start talking about wanting to get everyone out of CVS as there are so few left (and CVS is already in a minority), but things can wait until then. I'll start to maintain a list of "Want to stay in CVS for the near future", and the general response on this thread suggests I should put JMeter on it. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[VOTE]Re: SVN migration
My own vote on it was going to be -1, for basically the same reason everyone else voted +0. There is just no reason for us to want to move to subversion. But, since we're apparently not being given a choice, I suggest we move to subversion after finalizing the 2.0 branch. Since branching and tagging is different/problematic (using the eclipse plugin anyway), I'd prefer to do a last merge from 2.0 => HEAD using CVS + eclipse, and then we can move to subversion and figure out how to release 2.1. I vote +1 on this. -Mike On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 14:19, Peter Lin wrote: > so the bottom line is we have to migrate off CVS to subversion. I'm > pretty busy these days, but I'll try to make time to play with > subversion in the next few weeks. my hesitation is primarily due to > lack of experience and familiarity with subversion. > > I'm just stuck in the mud of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" :) > > peter > > > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:07:42 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I probably need to provide a bit more context :) > > > > The Infrastructure guys are looking to get us off CVS by some point. I > > wouldn't be surprised if the ASF is 50% in SVN already. So trying to > > avoid SVN is probably going to be increasingly hard as this year > > progresses. > > > > The existing CVS repository would be migrated, with > > tags/branches/comments all intact. Generally SVN on the client side is > > exactly the same as CVS. Most of the commands are the same. The only > > major difference is in tagging/branching; where the 'svn copy' command > > is used. In SVN you don't usually tag/branch individual files, you > > tag/branch the directory. > > > > Client-side support is good now. OS X binaries exist; the Eclipse > > plugin works fine (though maybe not for tagging/branching; ymmv). > > Intellij has a plugin and the next version will come with SVN plugged > > in automatically. > > > > Most importantly, there are a lot of improvements over CVS. > > http://subversion.tigris.org/ contains a description that is probably > > better than my particular favourites. > > > > I'm happy to assist with the migration planning etc, though if there's > > someone familiar with svn here already I'd prefer to let them handle > > things. All that really means is organising thoughts on how to > > structure the svn side of things (more on that later), sending the > > request to the infra guys for a test version to look at and then > > deciding if the test was good. > > > > Hen > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Stover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Apache Software Foundation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
so the bottom line is we have to migrate off CVS to subversion. I'm pretty busy these days, but I'll try to make time to play with subversion in the next few weeks. my hesitation is primarily due to lack of experience and familiarity with subversion. I'm just stuck in the mud of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" :) peter On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:07:42 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I probably need to provide a bit more context :) > > The Infrastructure guys are looking to get us off CVS by some point. I > wouldn't be surprised if the ASF is 50% in SVN already. So trying to > avoid SVN is probably going to be increasingly hard as this year > progresses. > > The existing CVS repository would be migrated, with > tags/branches/comments all intact. Generally SVN on the client side is > exactly the same as CVS. Most of the commands are the same. The only > major difference is in tagging/branching; where the 'svn copy' command > is used. In SVN you don't usually tag/branch individual files, you > tag/branch the directory. > > Client-side support is good now. OS X binaries exist; the Eclipse > plugin works fine (though maybe not for tagging/branching; ymmv). > Intellij has a plugin and the next version will come with SVN plugged > in automatically. > > Most importantly, there are a lot of improvements over CVS. > http://subversion.tigris.org/ contains a description that is probably > better than my particular favourites. > > I'm happy to assist with the migration planning etc, though if there's > someone familiar with svn here already I'd prefer to let them handle > things. All that really means is organising thoughts on how to > structure the svn side of things (more on that later), sending the > request to the infra guys for a test version to look at and then > deciding if the test was good. > > Hen > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
I probably need to provide a bit more context :) The Infrastructure guys are looking to get us off CVS by some point. I wouldn't be surprised if the ASF is 50% in SVN already. So trying to avoid SVN is probably going to be increasingly hard as this year progresses. The existing CVS repository would be migrated, with tags/branches/comments all intact. Generally SVN on the client side is exactly the same as CVS. Most of the commands are the same. The only major difference is in tagging/branching; where the 'svn copy' command is used. In SVN you don't usually tag/branch individual files, you tag/branch the directory. Client-side support is good now. OS X binaries exist; the Eclipse plugin works fine (though maybe not for tagging/branching; ymmv). Intellij has a plugin and the next version will come with SVN plugged in automatically. Most importantly, there are a lot of improvements over CVS. http://subversion.tigris.org/ contains a description that is probably better than my particular favourites. I'm happy to assist with the migration planning etc, though if there's someone familiar with svn here already I'd prefer to let them handle things. All that really means is organising thoughts on how to structure the svn side of things (more on that later), sending the request to the infra guys for a test version to look at and then deciding if the test was good. Hen On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:05:57 -0500, Peter Lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > like wise I have no experience with subversion so I am voting > > 0 > > I'm inclined to stick with CVS, though I will d/l subversion and give > it a try in the next few weeks for myself. > > > peter > > > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:00:04 +, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've not used subversion enough to know what the disadvantages might > > be, but equally I don't know the advantages... > > > > Not sure how it handles branches either - would we need to do a merge first? > > > > So I'm +0 at present. > > > > S. > > On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:20:33 +0100, Jordi Salvat i Alabart > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > +0 (sorry, still no time) > > > > > > En/na Peter Lin ha escrit: > > > > so should we migrate to subversion guys? > > > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:16:12 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>Just wondering if the JMeter community have any thoughts on a > > > >>migration to Subversion? > > > >> > > > >>I'm aiming to get Jakarta migrated over to Subversion this quarter and > > > >>this email is intended to nudge the start of the JMeter migration. The > > > >>process > > > >>seems pretty easy, though I'm not finished on my first one > > > >>(jakarta-regexp): > > > >> > > > >>http://www.apache.org/dev/cvs2svn.html > > > >> > > > >>The Jakarta status is in the wiki at: > > > >> > > > >>http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion > > > >> > > > >>Alternatively, I'm looking to hear the problems with the idea of a > > > >>migration to SVN so I can get the Infrastructure guys to deal with > > > >>them. > > > >> > > > >>Thanks, > > > >> > > > >>Hen > > > >> > > > >>- > > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
like wise I have no experience with subversion so I am voting 0 I'm inclined to stick with CVS, though I will d/l subversion and give it a try in the next few weeks for myself. peter On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:00:04 +, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've not used subversion enough to know what the disadvantages might > be, but equally I don't know the advantages... > > Not sure how it handles branches either - would we need to do a merge first? > > So I'm +0 at present. > > S. > On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:20:33 +0100, Jordi Salvat i Alabart > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > +0 (sorry, still no time) > > > > En/na Peter Lin ha escrit: > > > so should we migrate to subversion guys? > > > > > > peter > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:16:12 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >>Just wondering if the JMeter community have any thoughts on a > > >>migration to Subversion? > > >> > > >>I'm aiming to get Jakarta migrated over to Subversion this quarter and > > >>this email is intended to nudge the start of the JMeter migration. The > > >>process > > >>seems pretty easy, though I'm not finished on my first one > > >>(jakarta-regexp): > > >> > > >>http://www.apache.org/dev/cvs2svn.html > > >> > > >>The Jakarta status is in the wiki at: > > >> > > >>http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion > > >> > > >>Alternatively, I'm looking to hear the problems with the idea of a > > >>migration to SVN so I can get the Infrastructure guys to deal with > > >>them. > > >> > > >>Thanks, > > >> > > >>Hen > > >> > > >>- > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
I've not used subversion enough to know what the disadvantages might be, but equally I don't know the advantages... Not sure how it handles branches either - would we need to do a merge first? So I'm +0 at present. S. On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:20:33 +0100, Jordi Salvat i Alabart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +0 (sorry, still no time) > > En/na Peter Lin ha escrit: > > so should we migrate to subversion guys? > > > > peter > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:16:12 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Just wondering if the JMeter community have any thoughts on a > >>migration to Subversion? > >> > >>I'm aiming to get Jakarta migrated over to Subversion this quarter and > >>this email is intended to nudge the start of the JMeter migration. The > >>process > >>seems pretty easy, though I'm not finished on my first one (jakarta-regexp): > >> > >>http://www.apache.org/dev/cvs2svn.html > >> > >>The Jakarta status is in the wiki at: > >> > >>http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion > >> > >>Alternatively, I'm looking to hear the problems with the idea of a > >>migration to SVN so I can get the Infrastructure guys to deal with > >>them. > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>Hen > >> > >>- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
+0 (sorry, still no time) En/na Peter Lin ha escrit: so should we migrate to subversion guys? peter On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:16:12 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just wondering if the JMeter community have any thoughts on a migration to Subversion? I'm aiming to get Jakarta migrated over to Subversion this quarter and this email is intended to nudge the start of the JMeter migration. The process seems pretty easy, though I'm not finished on my first one (jakarta-regexp): http://www.apache.org/dev/cvs2svn.html The Jakarta status is in the wiki at: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion Alternatively, I'm looking to hear the problems with the idea of a migration to SVN so I can get the Infrastructure guys to deal with them. Thanks, Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVN migration
so should we migrate to subversion guys? peter On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:16:12 -0500, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wondering if the JMeter community have any thoughts on a > migration to Subversion? > > I'm aiming to get Jakarta migrated over to Subversion this quarter and > this email is intended to nudge the start of the JMeter migration. The process > seems pretty easy, though I'm not finished on my first one (jakarta-regexp): > > http://www.apache.org/dev/cvs2svn.html > > The Jakarta status is in the wiki at: > > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion > > Alternatively, I'm looking to hear the problems with the idea of a > migration to SVN so I can get the Infrastructure guys to deal with > them. > > Thanks, > > Hen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
