Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
Oh, I see now that Java on the Mac doesn't allow entry of filenames by keyboard typing in file-open dialog boxes. That's unfortunate. It boggles my mind why Apple hasn't caught on to the fact that maybe a file-open box could also be used for input from the web. Sure works nicely on the PC. If

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
Jmol users, good news! The signed new applet load/save menu items have been checked successfully now on Windows XP/Firefox,MSIE and Mac OS-X/Safari,Firefox. This is a whole new age for the applet. Specifically the signed applet menu adds these two items near the top: Load Load PDB Load

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Pillot
Bob, I am still experiencing the same bug with MacOs X.4, Safari : from your simple page, I can't load any local file. Preview works fine, but the final path provided to the applet is not correct (relative to the webpage and not absolute): FileManager opening

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
Sorry -- a fix I made did not make it into the package. Standby On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Paul Pillot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob,I am still experiencing the same bug with MacOs X.4, Safari : from your simple page, I can't load any local file. Preview works fine, but the final

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Rolf Huehne
Robert Hanson wrote: ps - It turns out there was a GIF encoder hiding in the Jmol code all along, so I activated that as well. You can now save GIF images, but frankly they look terrible because (I believe) GIF is limited to 256 colors. So I didn't add that possibility to the menu. I don't

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6 MacOS

2008-09-16 Thread Jonathan Gutow
Is this an applet only issue? I can definitely type the filename into the open dialog in the application version. Jmol 11.4.6, MacOS 10.4.11 Jonathan On Sep 16, 2008, at 2:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:51:03 -0500 From: Robert Hanson [EMAIL

[Jmol-users] interactive scripting docs

2008-09-16 Thread Frieda Reichsman
Hi Bob, I have not seen a response to a couple of queries here about inability to access the interactive scripting documentation. The URL I usually use, http://www.stolaf.edu/academics/chemapps/jmol/docs/ is redirected to http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/ and the link to documentation on

Re: [Jmol-users] synchronizing select commands in multiple jmolcheckbox(es)

2008-09-16 Thread Angel Herraez
Avehna, It appears to me that your solution is to have each checkbox call only the part of script specific to the relevant piece of protein. So, all your problem is a scripting one. They are several segments, so I will need several combinations if I'm using just jmol commands. No, you

Re: [Jmol-users] interactive scripting docs

2008-09-16 Thread Thomas Stout
I sure hope that we have all missed something: I never realized how often I use those pages every single day, until they were suddenly gone! Does anyone have a copy anywhere? -Tom On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Frieda Reichsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, I have not seen a response

Re: [Jmol-users] interactive scripting docs

2008-09-16 Thread Thomas Stout
For the desperate among you: I was relieved to find a copy of the documentation in Google's cache of the web site: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:arLIksbhe2oJ:chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/+jmol+documentationhl=enct=clnkcd=3gl=us It's not likely to remain there long, so grab it while you

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6 MacOS

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
Hmm. Could be a Java version issue. I definitely see what is shown at http://developer.apple.com/releasenotes/Java/Java142RN/WhatsNew/chapter_2_section_5.html You don't? I don't think I did anything to modify that, and the Java documentation supports the idea that there is no such box in Mac

Re: [Jmol-users] big step for Jmol 11.6

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Rolf Huehne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is usually no drastic quality difference. It depends of course of the specific rendering and larger images might also be more problematic. If file size matters in my experience the quality of GIF images of PDB

Re: [Jmol-users] Open dialog appearance on Mac OS...

2008-09-16 Thread Jonathan Gutow
I have attached a .png image of the open dialog I see on MacOS 10.4.11 with the latest Apple JVM using Jmol 11.6.RC14_dev (built on my machine). The Jmol application does not use the local look and feel (my recollection is that is the expected behavior, as we are not using the swing and

Re: [Jmol-users] Open dialog appearance on Mac OS...

2008-09-16 Thread Jonathan Gutow
Bob, Ok, I can see a mac-like dialog without the text entry box for the applet inside firefox using the web page http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/simple.htm This appears to be because the dialog is handled by the firefox interface to the JVM, which is requesting a MacOS look

[Jmol-users] help needed -- bonding radii of anions

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
Jmol has some very odd bonding radii for unusual anions. Note the numbers: (8 4) + (-2 + 4), 1320, // O-2 (8 4) + (-1 + 4), 1760, // O-1 // WAY too large? (14 4) + (-4 + 4), 2710, // Si-4 (14 4) + (-1 + 4), 3840, // Si-1 // same problem here? (34 4) + (-2 + 4), 1910,

Re: [Jmol-users] Open dialog appearance on Mac OS...

2008-09-16 Thread Bob Hanson
That makes sense. Still I need to add a box anyway because the information you type there is apparently not available for the previewer. It's very cool to be able to preview remote files. Bob. On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:55 PM, Jonathan Gutow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Ok, I can see a