Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-18 Thread Robert Hanson
See http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm 35. scales for axes, boundbox, measures # Jmol 11.9.12 adds optional scales to axes, boundbox, and measures. load caffeine.xyz boundbox ticks {2.0, 1.0, 0.2} # major, minor, subminor measure ticks {1.0 0.2 0} format [%0.0f] {-3 0 0} {3

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-18 Thread jason-sage
Robert Hanson wrote: See http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm 35. scales for axes, boundbox, measures # Jmol 11.9.12 adds optional scales to axes, boundbox, and measures. load caffeine.xyz boundbox ticks {2.0, 1.0, 0.2} # major, minor, subminor measure ticks {1.0 0.2 0}

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: But I agree, the business with axes and tics and such is pretty far afield of the core Jmol mission. Not sure if ticks are must used in crystallography, but axes most certainly... I also use the axes visualization in some

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathan Gutow
-0500 From: rgb r...@ellerbach.com Subject: Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for? To: jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 4b2960c8.4060...@ellerbach.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed It detracts from the time devoted to the development of Jmol more than

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Hanson
Well, it's certainly a way to get feature requests! (By the way, those need to be actual feature requests, please. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=addgroup_id=23629atid=379136) OK, just because it was so easy, I did implement changeable axes labels. Simple as: axes labels x y z I thought

[Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-16 Thread rgb
As interesting as it is to plot stuff I really don't see the purpose of putting time and effort into making Jmol a generic 3D plotting program. Maybe if its abilities and interface were perfected for plotting molecules (large and small) then there might be some impetus to create Jplot (or

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-16 Thread Robert Hanson
Rich, Good point. Yes, yes. I was just thinking the same thought this morning myself. It's nice that the Sage community has caught on to how useful Jmol is for general surface display. If the Jmol community, though, feels that displaying data in graphical form is outside the bounds of the

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-16 Thread Thomas Stout
While the plotting functionality may not be directly molecular-centric, I don't see how it detracts from Jmol. If the program were to become bloat-ware then yes, of course, that's a problem. For the moment it seems to be constrained within the bounds of scientific functionalities that many of us

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-16 Thread Jeff Hansen
Jmol is modular already is it not? As it stands now only portions of Jmol are loaded initially then others as needed. Am I right about that? If so it seems these graphing features could be pulled out and packaged together. Then if Jmol needs them they can be loaded. If Sage or anyone

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-16 Thread Robert Hanson
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Jeff Hansen jhan...@depauw.edu wrote: Jmol is modular already is it not? As it stands now only portions of Jmol are loaded initially then others as needed. Am I right about that? yes, that is correct -- provided you load JmolApplet0.jar (default) and not

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-16 Thread Jeff Hansen
So perhaps we need to brainstorm on what features related to display of small and large molecules we want to see added to Jmol. It is difficult to think of some. Jmol is so full of features now. Or maybe it is just my brain is too fuzzy from grading and this cold I've got. So what are

Re: [Jmol-users] what is Jmol for?

2009-12-16 Thread Ralf Stephan
On Dec 17, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Jeff Hansen wrote: So what are things you can't currently do now or wish were easier to do? I find it difficult to extract data, such as energies, out of files. Probably just my neophyte javascript skills. But I wonder if when the files are read in an