Re: [jokosher-devel] Play/Pause discussion... the rebirth... once more

2007-02-18 Thread David Corrales

Well, about the implementation itself. The play/pause is already there, so
the button won't change that. It's just the labels.
Again, most players I've seen handle the play button as a two sided one,
with play/pause. Take for example google video, youtube and metacafe. They
both use the play/pause button and they're pretty much the most successful
video sites on the web.
The stop button is not going anywhere also. It'll remain as stop and rewind.

Bottom line is, if the button behaves as play/pause, why won't its
label/icon behave the same way as well.

On 2/18/07, Thilo Pfennig  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


David Corrales schrieb:
 I think that pretty much sums it all up. In practically all the
 video/audio players embedded in browsers now, they use the play/pause
 button. Other players do it too and I find it to be the most intuitive
 way to use a double function button.
Hi David,

same discussion was in gnome-usability. I dont agree at all. To sum it
up: iPod
iPod did this and now people used to iPod think this is a good thing and
also some GUI designers. From the technical level I only can say that
the pausing as the only possibility has led to many headaches on my
Fedora box (don't know how others cope with it). Thats because many apps
dont seem to be able to really give gstreamer freedom. Soif I play pause
in Banshee or rhythmbox I can not play with totem. I now have to quit
the whole applications - because there is not stop. But uI guess this
can be solved, although I like to see that first.

Again about better usability - Not sure about that. People who do not
use iPod (do you? I dont) maybe not find their way through. Would be a
good thing to make some usability tests on that?

Regards,

Thilo


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Re: [jokosher-devel] Play/Pause discussion... the rebirth... once more

2007-02-17 Thread CodeNexus




I'll second that. It seems
to me that making this act as most people would expect is a sensible.
As most devices and software behave like this conforming is a good
thing. I hate to mention the Gimp... but its not that hard to learn
when you change it to what most people are used to like GimpShop did.
Most people I know find the Gimp impossible because it is so foreign to
the way they are used to operating.

Anyway that is only IMHO.


David Corrales wrote:
Hey everyone. I just had a chat with someone who came into
irc and told me, and I quote:
  
"I did take me three goes to figure out how to pause, not sure how
intuitive that is
(maybe should have read the manual but learned Audacity without reading
it)"
  
  
  
I think that pretty much sums it all up. In practically all the
video/audio players embedded in browsers now, they use the play/pause
button. Other players do it too and I find it to be the most intuitive
way to use a double function button.
  
The whole point of using labels and icons for a button is indicating
its behavior. The current way, it's not clear enough that the play
button has a double function.
My suggestion is that we go ahead and change the label, icon and
tooltip for the button when it is in the toggled state.
  
  

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