A while back I wrote scripts to build a *grid* of preset support (base on
parsing the source code of each editor). I use that on occasion to
identify and argue in favour of adding certain presets.
I think the bigger constraint on OSM growth though is not presets, but
rendering support. There
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote:
Have you considered that those thousands of mappers are not interested in
endless discussions about tags?
Yes, exactly, I did consider it. The tagging list is a huge and ugly pit
that many wisely choose not to wade in.
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
How can we, intrusively, tip off the right community of mappers that their
tags are getting discussed
s/intrusively/unobtrusively/
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote:
For me seeing any news or discussions when starting JOSM ist
the worst possible moment, because I started it with a specific goal in
mind,
ie editing something in OSM. I don't want to be distracted by news then.
Perhaps
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Not every tag proposal of is interest to a given mapper. But perhaps this
will help connect
the right mapper to the right tag design debate.
Your thoughts?
Fine
Put another way: thousands of mappers will use editors like JOSM, mapping
happily. My goal here is to find ways to
give those mappers a view into the discussions behind the data. A link to
OSM weekly news for example, would fit in just as well.
This is not meant to be anything big or
This is a partially baked JOSM patch:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m1txareeowlnvc3/MessageNotifier.java?dl=0
The code is hacky and quickly done, but here's why I created it:
The discussion around design of new tags has created a lot of complaints,
but it also has a lot of value. One of the problems
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2015-03-16 10:01 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
You can use any Unicode characters (utf-8) as you like.
Is now,
need not be forever.
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On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:02 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote:
There is already the info level warning about keys or values not in
presets. Maybe a new category for these warnings could help as right now
they are well hidden.
The INFO level is essentially unusable, because too many
I don't like the 1000 uses approach.
Some really terrible tags are used more than 1000 times,
and some really great ones less.
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I think it far more useful to have editors offer guidance to new mappers.
JOSM can know how many changesets a person has uploaded, and turn on
extra guidance,
At some level I feel it's the API's job to reject changesets with invalid
key/value lengths or characters.
JOSM should perhaps have a matching validator rule.
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On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Michael Zangl
openstreet...@michael.fam-zangl.net wrote:
This is a thing that annoyed me for a long time: JOSM is slow when
zooming out. I would like to improve this and have enough spare time
this summer to work on this as GSoC project.
One reason is fairly
I use JOSM XML for this all the time.
I'm able build a file representing add/update/delete operations.
It works well with the TODO plugin.
It's all pretty smooth.
Downsides:
* The delete operation is a bit invisible: deleted notes only show up at
upload time.
* Changeset tags in the file are
n Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
The first two downsides you mention, invisible deletes and ignored
changeset tags, are not specific to the TODO plugin, or are they? I mean,
making deletes visible (through a toggle switch perhaps) and supporting
changeset
Is the JOSM validator, as of 7995, still meant to process fixme or
FIXME tags?
I see it in the code:
UntaggedNode.java
if (contains(tag, fixme) || contains(tag, FIXME)) {
I see it in the wiki at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Validator
But a sample FIXME node does not seem to trigger
I'm writing to see if there's been past discussion about extending middle
click to areas.
Right now if I used middle click on the interior of a closed way, nothing
shows up.
To select the closed way requires finding one of the edges.
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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de
wrote:
On 17.02.2015 at 00:02 Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I'm writing to see if there's been past discussion about extending middle
click to areas.
Which tool/app/program (under which OS and on which Platform) or Map (on
which
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Paul Hartmann phaau...@gmail.com wrote:
Improvement of the validator code is welcome, but I think we should just
ignore the remaining false positives and don't add any validator-related
tags to the OSM data.
Paul
It would take only one tag.
Right now the
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:43 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
It would take only one tag.
Overrides should not be included in OSM itself.
Otherwise we will have a database with an ignore tag for JOSM
I did a little bit of work on the Mac setup instructions on the wiki.
Since even OS X Yosemite (the latest version from Apple) includes Java 6,
the setup for JOSM is quite involved for Mac users. Some more work on
this issue
is definitely needed, especially if the hope is to draft in more new
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
I wonder if empty values shouldn't be considered errors in validator?
Currently they are displayed as warnings on upload.
Agreed. I think validator sometimes is too picky, but empty values are a
good
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/8/24 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
We're encouraged by project consensus to map areas based on Bing
maps alone, for example.
are we? Can you point me to a place in the wiki where this is the case
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:58 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote:
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:58 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk
wrote:
What
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policyhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy
actually
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.dewrote:
On one side JOSM is the accepted expert tool. It allows to use it in a
very broad range of situations. I don't intent to limit that as e.g. Bryce
suggests. OSM developed very well and very likely the high freedom is
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/8/24 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
Is combining all the clues above (including clues left presumably by
local
mappers), plus Google searches, Knowledge?
I've been told that plus Google searches
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/8/24 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
Is combining all the clues above (including clues left presumably by
local
mappers), plus Google searches, Knowledge?
I've been told that plus Google searches
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
at the bottom of our MotD it says:
Remember the golden rules of OpenStreetMap:
* Don't copy from other maps
* Have fun!...
Thoughts?
Right now that MotD element is below the fold, and only the dedicated
will scroll
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Sure, even nicer to get encouraging emails from others in the project but
how likely is that?
Peer review is a bigger topic.
But peer review is also mapper-to-mapper contact.
Editing OSM can be a very isolated
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
at the FOSSGIS conference, someone said in a presentation that the user
experience in OSM could be improved if the editor were to give a simple
thank you message after you have uploaded something. Thank yo for
Patch at:
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6742
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On 08/26/2011 06:40 AM, André Riedel wrote:
2011/8/26 Bryce Nesbittbry...@obviously.com:
If not what syntax would make sense?
I would prefer something like this: [1] (Changeset syntax)
?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?
osm version='0.6' generator='JOSM'
changeset
tag k=created_by
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