Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2012-01-12 Thread Simon Legner
Hi! On 17/12/11 21:48, Mike N wrote: On 12/17/2011 9:49 AM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: I see not that we need a big modification here. Maybe an update of the wording could be done, so that people do not automatically assume new is better. That is a good idea. And since people don't realize

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: There is a sad story behind this. From day one, presets were designed to be distributed. It was never the plan to have one central set of presets that the JOSM team would maintain and everyone would follow that. The idea was that interested users

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-18 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 18/12/2011 13:46, Dirk Stöcker wrote: Working together with the autors of other editors also would be a good idea, but until today all such tries failed miserably. I suspect what this needs is for one person to just go ahead and implement something, and for the other editor coders to see

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Dirk, On 12/18/2011 02:46 PM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: Maybe I'm a bit over-sensitive ATM, but on one hand you blame me that JOSM depends too much on the server information and on the other hand you praise exactly these feature and would like to have them extended? What I like is when this works

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-18 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 18/12/2011 15:12, Frederik Ramm wrote: But I admit that this is a kind of romantic view because it assumes that everyone easily has a server available where they could publish their styles, Github FTW. ___ josm-dev mailing list

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/18/2011 04:59 PM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: But I admit that this is a kind of romantic view because it assumes that everyone easily has a server available where they could publish their styles, Github FTW. Yeah, I'm sure if one was desperate one could also publish via Facebook or

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-18 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: But I admit that this is a kind of romantic view because it assumes that everyone easily has a server available where they could publish their styles, and that information about available styles flows freely without the need for a central directory.

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-17 Thread Simon Legner
Hi! On 15/12/11 11:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: When was this decided? I've added the new contact scheme (new according to the Wiki) to the JOSM presets. There has been an open bug [1] in Trac for several months without any objections. The reasons have been: - contact:* is being used quite

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-17 Thread Pieren
so by no means should we blindly take for gospel what the Wiki says. but the JOSM presets, yes... Pieren ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011, Pieren wrote: so by no means should we blindly take for gospel what the Wiki says. but the JOSM presets, yes... That is and was always a critical situation. But the preset was added as alternative to the included stuff and did not replace it. I think it was correct

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/17/2011 03:40 PM, Pieren wrote: so by no means should we blindly take for gospel what the Wiki says. but the JOSM presets, yes... There is a sad story behind this. From day one, presets were designed to be distributed. It was never the plan to have one central set of presets

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-17 Thread Mike N
On 12/17/2011 9:49 AM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: I see not that we need a big modification here. Maybe an update of the wording could be done, so that people do not automatically assume new is better. That is a good idea. And since people don't realize that the new version effectively puts

[josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Recently the JOSM presets changed for fax, phone, website, email (old keys) to contact:fax, ... When was this decided? IMHO website is not even a contact-information in the first place, and looking at actual usage numbers: 208 408 website 7 116 contact:website it seems strange to me that this

Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact

2011-12-15 Thread Mike N
On 12/15/2011 5:44 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Recently the JOSM presets changed for fax, phone, website, email (old keys) to contact:fax, ... When was this decided? IMHO website is not even a contact-information in the first place, and looking at actual usage numbers: 208 408 website 7 116