[josm-dev] New projection for JOSM

2009-10-20 Thread Pieren
Hi,

Could someone from the core team apply the following patch:
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3737

adding a new projection required by the cadastre-fr plugin.
Since 10 days, the French cadastre WMS has changed the projection for
two third of the municipalities from the old Lambert 4 zones to a
new projection called Lambert Concic Conform 9 Zones. This patch
will allow me to publish a new version of the plugin to restore our
access to the WMS.

Thanks,
Pieren

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Re: [josm-dev] Plugin Popularity

2009-10-20 Thread MP
  instead of today's

  JOSM/1.5 (2069 SVN en_GB) Java/1.6.0_0

  I would transmit

  JOSM/1.5 (2069 SVN en_GB; wmsplugin, validator, slippymap) Java/1.6.0_0

This could create some network overhead - there are 39 plugins in
JOSM's official plugin list, of those I have personally 16 installed
(plus one that I made myself). In situation where JOSM is making many
requests (WMS plugin? Download way members? Upload not as atomic/diff
uploads?) this could be ... not good. 200 extra bytes per request (or
even more if you'll include plugin versions) seems to be not much, but
it is probably more than rest of request headers. Users with slow
upload (ADSL, ...) won't be happy.

Browsers usually also only report their version and not list of
installed plugins (ok, with browsers this could be a bit privacy and
security issue)

  This would enable us to make an estimate about which plugins are most
  popular, and we could rank them accordingly - assuming the most popular
  ones are also the most important ones.

  If you find this undesirable (it is a privacy issue but we have already
  sneaked in the version and language without asking anyone), then I would
  like to find some other way to indicate to new users which plugins are
  those commonly used.

Some way that won't shout complete list with every request. Perhaps add some
X-installed-plugins header only to requests to fetch the plugin list
(http://josm.openstreetmap.de/plugin)

Martin

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Re: [josm-dev] Plugin Popularity

2009-10-20 Thread Ľubomír Varga
Vhat about to make it legal? As in eclipse or netbeans, show to user one 
page, where will be writen, that josm coul monitor his ussage off josm sw and 
report it to its autors to improve future versions. Only uploaded data will 
be a list of plugins. This upload will be done on any change in used 
plugins...

What do you think about this? In future there could be an optional monitoring 
for monitoring ussages of all buttons in josm.

PS: also some linux distributions (minimally kubuntu) ask for permission about 
to monitor popularity of installed packages. Default is this option off.


On Tuesday 20 October 2009 19:14:34 Frederik Ramm wrote:
 Hi,

 the number of plugins becomes ever larger, which is good.

 I would like to amend the JOSM User-Agent header to contain not only
 version and language, but also a list of installed plugins - e.g.
 instead of today's

 JOSM/1.5 (2069 SVN en_GB) Java/1.6.0_0

 I would transmit

 JOSM/1.5 (2069 SVN en_GB; wmsplugin, validator, slippymap) Java/1.6.0_0

 This would enable us to make an estimate about which plugins are most
 popular, and we could rank them accordingly - assuming the most popular
 ones are also the most important ones.

 If you find this undesirable (it is a privacy issue but we have already
 sneaked in the version and language without asking anyone), then I would
 like to find some other way to indicate to new users which plugins are
 those commonly used.

 Bye
 Frederik
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Re: [josm-dev] Plugin Popularity

2009-10-20 Thread SLXViper
Frederik Ramm wrote:
 Hi,

 the number of plugins becomes ever larger, which is good.

 I would like to amend the JOSM User-Agent header to contain not only 
 version and language, but also a list of installed plugins - e.g. 
 instead of today's

 JOSM/1.5 (2069 SVN en_GB) Java/1.6.0_0

 I would transmit

 JOSM/1.5 (2069 SVN en_GB; wmsplugin, validator, slippymap) Java/1.6.0_0

 This would enable us to make an estimate about which plugins are most 
 popular, and we could rank them accordingly - assuming the most popular 
 ones are also the most important ones.

 If you find this undesirable (it is a privacy issue but we have already 
 sneaked in the version and language without asking anyone), then I would 
 like to find some other way to indicate to new users which plugins are 
 those commonly used.
   

Can't you just analyse the requests made by josm to
josm.openstreetmap.de when someone wants to update existing or install
new plugins? I think this could be the best solution as it causes
traffic very rarely and only when you want to modify or check your
installed plugins. Additionally, noone else except the admins of
josm.openstreetmap.de will get this information, so most people minding
their privacy should be able to accept this. This would work with every
version of josm, even old ones, no modifications are needed here. The
only thing you have to do is to add some statistics part to the webserver.


best regards

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