Re: [josm-dev] WMS and remote-control
Komяpa wrote: 2) fires.Kosmosnimki.ru have provided us access to their realtime satellite imagery. That imagery [...] consists of thousands of layers. [...] Now, we need a convenient way to load that imagery into josm. An extenstion to josm-remote that will load specified WMS URL will be just fine. What do you want to implement? A Web page to select a layer and load it into JOSM? Currently the WMS plugin needs a configuration entry for every WMS server (and every layer). I don't know how much work it would be to implement a remote interface for (temporarily?) adding the necessary configuration and automatically loading the new WMS layer. For now I suggest you generate and display the WMS URL for the selected layer in the format required by JOSM. Then the user can copy and paste it into JOSM's configuration as needed. It's not as user friendly as you intended but it's the best you can do with the current version of JOSM and WMS plugin. (I resend this via nabble because my original message sent via webmail interface did not show up on the list.) Bodo -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/WMS-and-remote-control-tp5413841p5415372.html Sent from the JOSM Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WMS and remote-control
What do you want to implement? A Web page to select a layer and load it into JOSM? Yes. Currently the WMS plugin needs a configuration entry for every WMS server (and every layer). I don't know how much work it would be to implement a remote interface for (temporarily?) adding the necessary configuration and automatically loading the new WMS layer. Except for configuration window (F12-WMS), WMS plugin has menu item WMS-Rectified Image, that lets user quickly add a layer by WMS URL. What's needed is a way to access this functionality from a webpage. -- Darafei Komяpa Praliaskouski xmpp:m...@komzpa.net mailto:m...@komzpa.net ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Error messages in Josm
i just had a problem with josm. A friend tried to reproduce the steps and got a different (translated) message. I suggest to add errorcodes and not to translate error messages as things get very improper. Errormessages could start with WW: warning II: information EE: error That could help to filter information. Fatal: seems to be not the best word to describe the situation. Example JOSM will not stop working for german users: Fatal: failed to locate image 'markers/Bus Station.png'. This is a serious configuration problem. JOSM will stop working. Fehler: Das Bild 'markers/Bus Station.png' konnte nicht geladen werden. Das ist ein schwerwiegendes Konfigurationsproblem. please comment, -- Jonas Stein n...@jonasstein.de ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WMS requiring an EULA acceptance
Pieren wrote: It could be a WMS customization (blocking the images delivery if the user-agent is not in the white list), I don't know this part well enough to answer. Matthias is right. You cannot rely on the client program. It is easy to change the user agent. see http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/ Matthias Meißer wrote: so best would be to let mappers somewhat register by mail/osm PM/.. so they can check who is online. During this step it is necessary to accept the EULA. Pieren wrote: The things you suggest have been studied in details with their lawyers and they found this solution as a compromise (no user accounts to manage, simplicity, etc). Just click 'OK' on the text asking you to use the imagery for OSM only. Sounds reasonable. With this simplicity they won't get any security. As I already said you cannot rely on the client program. I saw in the WMS plugin that you can specify cookies. (I don't know if it works correct.) Maybe the user can go to their website to accept the license. The user will get a string that he has to copy and paste to his WMS configuration as a cookie specification. The WMS server can reject requests without a known cookie. (But without other checks some cookies will sooner or later be known to everyone.) Or the website can create an individual URL after accepting the license. The user can select the WMS - rectified image option and paste the URL. (similar security problems here, maybe the URL can be restricted to a specific IP address and could expire when unused for some time...) Bodo -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/WMS-requiring-an-EULA-acceptance-tp5416309p5416706.html Sent from the JOSM Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WMS requiring an EULA acceptance
Pieren wrote: Dear josm-devs, In my country, we have a commercial imagery supplier which is ready to open its images but only for the OSM project (licencing issues fixed). For that, they will set-up a WMS for a limited coverage during an experimental period and want to check that only allowed clients are accessing the data by checking the user-agent (on which only the OSM editors could be accepted and others rejected of course). The main concern is about a special handling of the WMS. They want that a contributor using the WMS the first time shall read and accept an EULA (End User License Agreement). Again this is just to inform people that they are only allowed to use the imagery for OSM and nothing else. Of course, the whole process can be bypassed by anyone who really want to access the WMS but this is a demand from the lawyers. The EULA would be available in two languages but could be extended later. Then I'm asking you to check if this demand is possible and how it could be solved. I don't want to fork the WMS plugin just for that, so my idea is that the plugin could be modified in a way that the special WMS URI could be identified as such in the Java code (hardcoded) and would raise the EULA acceptance dialog automatically the first time (stored somewhere is different languages). I could implement that myself but I would have your feedback first to see if this is the right way to go. Generally, it should be possible to include something like this in the main wms plugin. Hardcoding some URLs might also be acceptable (but I don't think it is needed). There are always older versions of the wms plugin out there in use. These older versions would not know about this blacklist and would simply ignore the EULA enforcement. You might want to demand a certain parameter in the URL (like ...user=openstreetmap) just to sort out the older clients. When reading the list of defaults [1], wms plugin ignores each line that has more than 2 semicolons in it. You can exploit this, to create your own custom format. E.g. the first string could be the name of the custom format EULA-1.0, followed by the necessary parameters. When extending the plugin, make it ignore lines with unknown format. I would imagine it like this: * You open josm preference and select the entry from the defaults. * A message box pops up, informing you that it is necessary to accept an EULA for using the service. * If you click OK, it would download the EULA text from an external website (possibly translated) and present it in another dialog. * Save in the preferences that EULA has been accepted. [1] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/plugins/wmsplugin/sources.cfg Sebastian ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WMS requiring an EULA acceptance
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Bodo Meissner b...@bodo-m.de wrote: Matthias is right. You cannot rely on the client program. It is easy to change the user agent. see http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/ Again, the idea is not to build up a fortress. It is well known that if someone really want to catch the images, he will be able to do so anyway. The request to show and accept the uela is coming from the jurists, I cannot change that. What I would like to know is if it is possible and how I could do it in JOSM/WMS plugin without disturbing the main stream. Pieren ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WMS requiring an EULA acceptance
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.comwrote: I would imagine it like this: * You open josm preference and select the entry from the defaults. * A message box pops up, informing you that it is necessary to accept an EULA for using the service. * If you click OK, it would download the EULA text from an external website (possibly translated) and present it in another dialog. * Save in the preferences that EULA has been accepted. Sounds reasonable for me. If nobody is against this proposal, I will look to implement it in the plugin. Thank you for your support, Pieren ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WMS and remote-control
Komяpa wrote: Hi all, 1) Due to Landsat WMS being down and overloaded usually, we've set up a caching WMS proxy for it. JOSM URL is http://irs.gis-lab.info/?layers=landsat; Please consider updating JOSM defaults. Do you want it to show up in the list on the bottom, or make it installed by default instead of the standard landsat URL? Are you sure, you can handle the traffic? The list of wms services [1] can be edited and is loaded by each wms client on startup. However you cannot force people to delete an entry from their menu, once it has been added it to their bookmarks. [1] http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/plugins/wmsplugin/sources.cfg 2) fires.Kosmosnimki.ru have provided us access to their realtime satellite imagery. That imagery is not mosaiced, and consists of thousands of layers. We've made a WMS gateway to it. Now, we need a convenient way to load that imagery into josm. An extenstion to josm-remote that will load specified WMS URL will be just fine. Hope somebody will write it, as I'm no java coder, unfortunately. There are some security issues when the browser has too much control over the client software. If you extend josm-remote this way, I suggest you fork it. (No offence intended, might be useful for some.) Sebastian ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
