[josm-dev] R: R: R: R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me?
Yes! After some days of tests and the Michael's confirmation, the problem can be consideres solved. I was trying to correlate the HW characteristics of two failing HWs, but I couldn't. So it remains a warning to Nvidia users and other with low video ram. Ciao! Fabrizio -Messaggio originale- Da: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org]per conto di Michael Bemmerl Inviato: domenica 10 maggio 2009 2.18 A: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: Re: [josm-dev] R: R: R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Thanks Fabrizio, that did the trick! Fabrizio Carrai schrieb: It looks like I found the solution!!! It seems to happen with machines with low video ram. I've an NVidia Geoforce 6150 (shared memory 512MB): no idea if it falls in such category, but now it works! I have a GeForce 7300 GT with 256 MB on board. As in [1] the solution is to start JOSM including the Java option sun.java2d.d3d=false: C:\WINDOWS\system32\javaw.exe -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Xmx800M -jar C:\Programmi\Josm\josm-latest.jar I'm now working since several hours with JOSM doing several changes and uploads: no crashes till now! Before it was happening after very short editing sessions. Me too. Continuing testing! Ciao! Fabrizio [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/379574/possible-java-jna-issue Bye, Michi Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.325 / Database dei virus: 270.12.23/2106 - Data di rilascio: 05/09/09 06:54:00 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] R: R: R: R: R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me?
Do you mean how this solution can be integrated in the JOSM system and so possibly reported to other users experiencing the same problem ? First, I'm not a Java expert, nor in JOSM, so I've to delegate somebody more expert than me to reply. But I like your question that involves the knowledege management. I understood that the specifi problem was hard to detect in JOSM since it was happening down in the JVM. No idea if errors in JVM can be catched in the main app, and if so what data are returned. If I understood the point, the app (JOSM in that case) should catch the exception, get awt.dll and EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (the few info of my case) and use it for a Knowledge Base database search. Could be a good idea, but no clue about feasibility. Have a nice day to you too. Ciao! Fabrizio -Messaggio originale- Da: Lubomír Varga [mailto:lu...@plaintext.sk] Inviato: domenica 10 maggio 2009 10.06 A: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org Cc: Fabrizio Carrai Oggetto: Re: [josm-dev] R: R: R: R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? I have one question. Consider Iam random josm user, without any interest in bugreporting, finding why is something broken etc. (normal, flegmatic user :D) How will be presented this information to me? Will it after crash write me an link to bug and to solution? Is it possible when problem is in jvm? (I think it isnt possible to handle it in java code) Could be something done in running scripts which will detect this and make suggestions to users? Just asking. Probably there is some known bugs list, which everyone will see when downloading josm. Have a nice day. On Sunday 10 May 2009 09:40:27 Fabrizio Carrai wrote: Yes! After some days of tests and the Michael's confirmation, the problem can be consideres solved. I was trying to correlate the HW characteristics of two failing HWs, but I couldn't. So it remains a warning to Nvidia users and other with low video ram. Ciao! Fabrizio -Messaggio originale- Da: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org]per conto di Michael Bemmerl Inviato: domenica 10 maggio 2009 2.18 A: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: Re: [josm-dev] R: R: R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Thanks Fabrizio, that did the trick! Fabrizio Carrai schrieb: It looks like I found the solution!!! It seems to happen with machines with low video ram. I've an NVidia Geoforce 6150 (shared memory 512MB): no idea if it falls in such category, but now it works! I have a GeForce 7300 GT with 256 MB on board. As in [1] the solution is to start JOSM including the Java option sun.java2d.d3d=false: C:\WINDOWS\system32\javaw.exe -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Xmx800M -jar C:\Programmi\Josm\josm-latest.jar I'm now working since several hours with JOSM doing several changes and uploads: no crashes till now! Before it was happening after very short editing sessions. Me too. Continuing testing! Ciao! Fabrizio [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/379574/possible-java-jna-issue Bye, Michi Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.325 / Database dei virus: 270.12.23/2106 - Data di rilascio: 05/09/09 06:54:00 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev -- Odborník na všetko je zlý odborník. Ja sa snažím byť výnimkou potvrdzujúcou pravidlo. Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.325 / Database dei virus: 270.12.23/2106 - Data di rilascio: 05/09/09 06:54:00 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] R: R: R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me?
It looks like I found the solution!!! It seems to happen with machines with low video ram. I've an NVidia Geoforce 6150 (shared memory 512MB): no idea if it falls in such category, but now it works! As in [1] the solution is to start JOSM including the Java option sun.java2d.d3d=false: C:\WINDOWS\system32\javaw.exe -Dsun.java2d.d3d=false -Xmx800M -jar C:\Programmi\Josm\josm-latest.jar I'm now working since several hours with JOSM doing several changes and uploads: no crashes till now! Before it was happening after very short editing sessions. Continuing testing! Ciao! Fabrizio [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/379574/possible-java-jna-issue -Messaggio originale- Da: Michael Bemmerl [mailto:osm-t...@mx-server.de] Inviato: giovedì 7 maggio 2009 0.25 A: Fabrizio Carrai Oggetto: Re: [josm-dev] R: R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Fabrizio Carrai schrieb: It has been closed. The problem has been considered to belong to Java and not to JOSM (no fix). I'll keep continue to update the Java VM... :-( I have the same problem and I think Java 1.6.0_09 or so introduced this issue. I have other Java apps running (e.g. TV-Browser), which don't crash. JOSM is the only java app that crashes so constantly and frequently (after six seconds of usage, as stated in the hs_err_pid-file). I tried different -Xmx values (I normally use 1024M), but that didn't helped. I don't think that the maximum memory usage is a problem here, because JOSM already crashes with about 40 MB of memory used (as seen in the status report). But I found a solution to work around this Java bug: As I looked in the task manager, I noticed that Thunderbird and other non-java apps consumed about 1 gig of memory. After I closed every non vital app, JOSM never crashed again. Well, my workaround it's not nice, but it works (at least for me). Bye, Michi Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.325 / Database dei virus: 270.12.19/2099 - Data di rilascio: 05/05/09 13:07:00 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] R: R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me?
It has been closed. The problem has been considered to belong to Java and not to JOSM (no fix). I'll keep continue to update the Java VM... :-( F. -Messaggio originale- Da: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org]per conto di Fabrizio Carrai Inviato: domenica 3 maggio 2009 7.21 A: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: [josm-dev] R: R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Done. Ticket created http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/2514 Available for any support would be needed. Fabrizio -Messaggio originale- Da: Jiri Klement [mailto:jiri.klem...@gmail.com] Inviato: lunedì 6 aprile 2009 22.02 A: Fabrizio Carrai Cc: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: Re: [josm-dev] R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Can you please make a bug report and include one of the hs_err files? It's quite possible it's a Java bug. In that case upgrading Java to newest version should help. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Fabrizio Carrai fabrizio.car...@gmail.com wrote: It happened to me as well, but since some earlier version. Approximately since end of January. I also tried to increase the physical memory but without success. Look at your current working directory: everytime that Josm crashes I find an hs_err_pid.log file indicating: # # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc005) at pc=0x6d0347d6, pid=3996, tid=2088 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (11.2-b01 mixed mode windows-x86) # Problematic frame: # C [awt.dll+0x347d6] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code. # See problematic frame for where to report the bug. No solution to that up to now. Ciao! Fabrizio -Messaggio originale- Da: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org]per conto di Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Inviato: lunedi 6 aprile 2009 16.50 A: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: [josm-dev] FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Forwarded from newbies list -Original Message- From: newbies-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:newbies-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Mike Harris Sent: 06 April 2009 12:19 PM To: newb...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Hi Since approx. 1st April I've been experiencing regular JOSM crashes - never happened before and no obvious change in my own system configuration. Happens with the latest .jar as well as the most recent tested. On carrying out a common operation the program just closes immediately without warning or message. Once it starts happening it happens with increasing frequency until I reboot. No obvious correlation with any particular operation. I have tried a reinstall without improvement - but perhaps I should have cleared out some corrupted old files? If so, what and where? Any tips - I'm getting frustrated! Mike Harris Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.285 / Database dei virus: 270.11.43/2043 - Data di rilascio: 04/06/09 06:22:00 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.285 / Database dei virus: 270.11.45/2045 - Data di rilascio: 04/07/09 06:41:00 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.287 / Database dei virus: 270.12.13/2091 - Data di rilascio: 05/01/09 17:52:00 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] R: FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me?
It happened to me as well, but since some earlier version. Approximately since end of January. I also tried to increase the physical memory but without success. Look at your current working directory: everytime that Josm crashes I find an hs_err_pid.log file indicating: # # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc005) at pc=0x6d0347d6, pid=3996, tid=2088 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (11.2-b01 mixed mode windows-x86) # Problematic frame: # C [awt.dll+0x347d6] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp # The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code. # See problematic frame for where to report the bug. No solution to that up to now. Ciao! Fabrizio -Messaggio originale- Da: josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:josm-dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org]per conto di Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Inviato: lunedi 6 aprile 2009 16.50 A: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: [josm-dev] FW: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Forwarded from newbies list -Original Message- From: newbies-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:newbies-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Mike Harris Sent: 06 April 2009 12:19 PM To: newb...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-newbies] JOSM problems - is it just me? Hi Since approx. 1st April I've been experiencing regular JOSM crashes - never happened before and no obvious change in my own system configuration. Happens with the latest .jar as well as the most recent tested. On carrying out a common operation the program just closes immediately without warning or message. Once it starts happening it happens with increasing frequency until I reboot. No obvious correlation with any particular operation. I have tried a reinstall without improvement - but perhaps I should have cleared out some corrupted old files? If so, what and where? Any tips - I'm getting frustrated! Mike Harris Nessun virus nel messaggio in arrivo. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.285 / Database dei virus: 270.11.43/2043 - Data di rilascio: 04/06/09 06:22:00 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
