Dirk Stöcker schrieb:
I wont give that away for some short term effects (which download size
is nowadays).
I'm sometimes at a location where I only can use an analog (dial-in)
modem (no DSL or ISDN present), with mobile phones I only get a GPRS
connection (no EGGE or UMTS). This location is
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Maarten Deen wrote:
Than you make localized versions _and_ one have-it-all version. Make the
have-it-all version available in the directory it is now and have the
localized versions hidden in a directory with its name so that novice users
can't find it.
Somehow I get a
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I am a bit concerned about the fact that the JOSM .jar file has
grown from 1.7 MB to 5.5 MB in the last 12 months, that's factor 3.2.
With all due respect, I do not think that JOSM is now 3.2 times as good
as it was one year ago - it certainly is
Hi,
Dirk Stöcker wrote:
Only 24% of JOSM users use english
software version - The majority uses localized JOSM (50% use german).
Everybody loses if languages are packaged with the bundle - the German
user downloads about 3 MB of compressed translation classes when only
250 KB are relevant
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Only 24% of JOSM users use english
software version - The majority uses localized JOSM (50% use german).
Everybody loses if languages are packaged with the bundle - the German
user downloads about 3 MB of compressed translation classes when only
250
Dirk Stöcker napsal(a):
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Only 24% of JOSM users use english
software version - The majority uses localized JOSM (50% use german).
Everybody loses if languages are packaged with the bundle - the German
user downloads about 3 MB of compressed
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Maarten Deen wrote:
Dirk Stöcker wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Can we perhaps think of a way to dynamically load the language support
instead of burdening *every* downloader with megabytes of translations
in languages he will never select? This is
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Petr Nejedlý wrote:
Well, until someone presents an overly clever system to handle the
language issue this is a yes/no question. Sorry. And I don't know other
software where this is solved better.
Webstart with jarindex and jars split per language?
Sounds good. When I
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
I propose to split up the build process so that it builds a special
version for each language. In addition, we can keep building the
all-languages version for those in a true multilingual environment (or
those on a fat
2009/7/17 Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de:
...There will never
be 5000 languages for JOSM and you know that. Please don't start silly
number games, as I wont continue discussion in this case.
never say never ;-)
Martin
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I don't think it is important to give people the option to choose the
language *after* they have downloaded JOSM - it would be sufficient to
give them the option to choose the language *when* they download JOSM.
I'm not sure this is the best solution.
For example on OpenOffice I get a big list
Hello,
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
writes:
I propose to split up the build process so that it builds a special
version for each language. In addition, we can keep building the
all-languages version for those in a true multilingual environment (or
those on a fat pipe who would rather
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
Dirk Stöcker wrote:
This sounds like first and second class languages and this is something
which I really would hate. It is bad enought that english users are
preferred usually, but I wont do thing to encourage such language based
discrimination.
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I propose to split up the build process so that it builds a special
version for each language. In addition, we can keep building the
all-languages version for those in a true multilingual environment (or
those on a fat pipe who would rather not be
Hi,
Dirk Stöcker wrote:
There are different points of view, but I'm from Germany and I'm proud
of the fact that I learned something from my own history.
Well repeating history would be forcing everyone to use the German JOSM.
ACHTUNG!!!11!
Bye
Frederik
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Frederik Ramm schrieb:
Hi,
Dirk Stöcker wrote:
This sounds like first and second class languages and this is something
which I really would hate. It is bad enought that english users are
preferred usually, but I wont do thing to encourage such language based
discrimination.
We don't
Hi,
Ulf Lamping wrote:
Complicating the build process for the developers and the download step
for users is *no* price worth to pay for 1-2MB saved download size IMHO.
It's easy to say that when you are behind a DSL pipe. It all sounds very
generous and inclusive: We're not discriminating
Hi,
Ulf Lamping wrote:
I have installed and used JOSM behind a 56K modem line before. The issue
- as Dirk alread noted - was not the JOSM, but the data download.
I don't accept that argument. Downloading a large area (plus aerial
imagery) and making edits there is only one of a large number
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