Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Tested! [#3772 - Help browser calling external program]
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009, Sebastian Klein wrote: Jiri fixed #3920. Means #3772 is left. What is the problem with launching the help browser as a new process? Seems fine to me. a) Security issues. When you launch an application you must be sure it is really the right one. b) Installation issues. Java must be installed in a way, that you can launch it. c) Does not work in Webstart variant or as applet. from the ticket: Idea how to solve: Set help dialog modal and modal dialog non-modal when help from modal dialog is called. I think a modal help dialog is not so good, because users like to keep it open in the background for future reference. But it is the only solution I can think of which works. And closing the help dialog to continue is much better than introducing lots of design trouble. Whenever we switch to Java 6, we can solve that issue with different modal modes as supported by Java 6. Ciao -- http://www.dstoecker.eu/ (PGP key available) ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Tested! [#3772 - Help browser calling external program]
Dirk Stöcker wrote: a) Security issues. When you launch an application you must be sure it is really the right one. Isn't it similarly insecure to run binary plugins that are located in the user's home folder? Btw., to address the memory problem, josm could exec itself on start with a better -Xmx... parameter... *ducks runs* b) Installation issues. Java must be installed in a way, that you can launch it. True, but shouldn't be a problem in practice. (There are java apps that are run by a script. They must have figured this out somehow.) c) Does not work in Webstart variant or as applet. That's a problem... How many Webstart users are there? One could simply redirect the help to a browser window for these people. (Or use modal help for webstarters only.) from the ticket: Idea how to solve: Set help dialog modal and modal dialog non-modal when help from modal dialog is called. I think a modal help dialog is not so good, because users like to keep it open in the background for future reference. But it is the only solution I can think of which works. And closing the help dialog to continue is much better than introducing lots of design trouble. Whenever we switch to Java 6, we can solve that issue with different modal modes as supported by Java 6. Btw. may I ask what are the main reasons for using Java 5? (Other than support users that haven't updated their Java for 3 years.) __ Basti ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Tested! [#3772 - Help browser calling external program]
Dirk Stöcker wrote: Jiri fixed #3920. Means #3772 is left. What is the problem with launching the help browser as a new process? Seems fine to me. (At least all gnome apps do it this way and it's quite customary in the Windows world, too.) from the ticket: Idea how to solve: Set help dialog modal and modal dialog non-modal when help from modal dialog is called. I think a modal help dialog is not so good, because users like to keep it open in the background for future reference. __ Basti ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
