Re: [jug-discussion] holiday party?
1b looks good Nick Nicholas Lesiecki Software Craftsman, specializing in J2EE, Agile Methods, and aspect-oriented programming Books: * Mastering AspectJ: http://tinyurl.com/66vf * Java Tools for Extreme Programming: http://tinyurl.com/66vt Articles on AspectJ: * http://tinyurl.com/66vu and http://tinyurl.com/66vv On Nov 1, 2004, at 11:05 AM, Warner Onstine wrote: Due to the lack of response to our question I'm led to believe that people don't want a holiday party (or don't care either way). If you don't voice your opinion we won't know what the group wants in this regard. I would like to extend our deadline by a little bit (say tonight), but we need some responses ;-). If you don't want one at all and would rather stay home watching TV, great, just let us know! Again, thanks to those that have responded so far (please do so to the list so that others can see in what direction everyone is leaning). Here are the choices (with a couple of new ones added): 1) Find a bar that would either a) allow us to bring in some finger food type items, or b) has appetizers available to us and has enough space for about 20 people. 2) Have a real sit-down dinner somewhere decent 3) Have a get together at someone's abode (or is that adobe) 4) Something else ___ 5) I don't care (won't be able to attend anyways) Please note - If you live out of town there really isn't a need to reply to this message (unless you're going to be in town and want to attend our shindig). Thanks again. -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [jug-discussion] holiday party?
Sorry I was out of touch for a bit. As intersting as it sounds, I am afried that unless the party was held after the 19th and before the 22nd of December, I must choise 5) I don't care (won't be able to attend anyways) On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Warner Onstine wrote: > Due to the lack of response to our question I'm led to believe that > people don't want a holiday party (or don't care either way). If you > don't voice your opinion we won't know what the group wants in this > regard. I would like to extend our deadline by a little bit (say > tonight), but we need some responses ;-). If you don't want one at all > and would rather stay home watching TV, great, just let us know! > > Again, thanks to those that have responded so far (please do so to the > list so that others can see in what direction everyone is leaning). > > Here are the choices (with a couple of new ones added): > 1) Find a bar that would either a) allow us to bring in some finger > food type items, or b) has appetizers available to us and has enough > space for about 20 people. > 2) Have a real sit-down dinner somewhere decent > 3) Have a get together at someone's abode (or is that adobe) > 4) Something else ___ > 5) I don't care (won't be able to attend anyways) > > Please note - If you live out of town there really isn't a need to > reply to this message (unless you're going to be in town and want to > attend our shindig). > > Thanks again. > > -warner > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [jug-discussion] Ant and Anthill Spawn o' the Devil
> It sounds like the problem is that undeploying an app from tomcat > doesn't work. I'm pretty sure that's becuase on windows you can't > delete open files. Yep -- that was the original problem, but since then I changed the script to physically stop tomcat and delete the war and exploded dir. That gets around the problem that the jars seem to be open (despite the context being told to STOP -- naughty Flex!) and Windows as you say won't let me delete them. > i've never even heard of > anthillpro, so that seems pretty likely. AnthillPro is reasonably good stuff to automate project builds for continuous integration. http://www.urbancode.com/ After using it for a year or so, I can't imagine working on a team and not having CI. Cruise Control, Damage Control, and Anthill Open Source are free CI alternatives. I've used CC but in a comparison matrix to AHP, AHP offered enough advantages to be worth the $1200 (It has since increased in price, but still worth it IMHO. I can easily show an ROI of about a week due to less developer time running integration builds.) Damage Control looks interesting -- but they use Ruby and honestly, I'm just not interested in learning yet another scripting language, only for doing builds. Cheers, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [jug-discussion] Ant and Anthill Spawn o' the Devil
> A hint: the Tomcat tasks are more trouble than they are worth. The ant tomcat tasks worked with some of my contexts, but the flex app does not seem to be behaving -- it won't undeploy cleanly when using the Tomcat Manager either. :-( That's why I switched to just exec'ing the shutdown.bat and manually scripting the deploy of a new copy of the war. > I just run tomcat in a console window and > restart it whenever I redeploy. Yeah, I do that locally, but this situation is on a remote server with AnthillPro -- i.e. I want to have it automagically redeploy new builds. > Tomcat service you can use the control panel to start/stop I've got one of those too. ;-) > Better yet use Resin (http://www.caucho.com) which is faster to start > and stop. It has a control panel also (no service install, however). For personal dev, I may try out Jetty and Resin -- I've been interested in them for a while -- ever since the "Does Tomcat Suck?" blog post came out. But for the corporate gig, Tomcat more closely resembles the production environment -- it is what it is, and so I need to use TC. Way back -- before Intellij had built-in Tomcat integration, I ran TC as an external 'tool' by starting with the Bootstrap class. I haven't re-found the docs on that -- thinking maybe it might be a cleaner way to start Tomcat from Ant since it wouldn't involve java to exec/native process to fire up a java app. -Timo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [jug-discussion] Ant and Anthill Spawn o' the Devil
To the extent that i understand the problem here, my favorite solution is to use linux. It sounds like the problem is that undeploying an app from tomcat doesn't work. I'm pretty sure that's becuase on windows you can't delete open files. On linux, there's no problem deleting open files, so undeploy/redeploy just works. maybe i've totally missed the point though. i've never even heard of anthillpro, so that seems pretty likely. Drew Davidson wrote: Tim Colson wrote: I'm going nuts. I've been trying to get ANT to re-deploy a webapp to Tomcat 5 via AnthillPro. Works from command line, but hangs AnthillPro. A little background... I first tried the ant-tomcat tasks to simply undeploy/deploy but the Flex app (inside util.war) has problems undeploying - there is a directory filled with jars that cannot be removed. So I decided to just stop tomcat, wipe out the directory and redeploy... It all works... the build is a success... but Anthillpro hangs at the end. :-( I just don't get it. (I've tried exec with startup and startup-using-launcher... with and without spawn. It really does need spawn, otherwise it understandibly does not finish the build process. A hint: the Tomcat tasks are more trouble than they are worth. They don't work. I just run tomcat in a console window and restart it whenever I redeploy. Slower, but it's consistently correct. If you installed the Tomcat service you can use the control panel to start/stop (but I prefer the console so that I can see what's going on). Better yet use Resin (http://www.caucho.com) which is faster to start and stop. It has a control panel also (no service install, however). - Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [jug-discussion] Ant and Anthill Spawn o' the Devil
Tim Colson wrote: I'm going nuts. I've been trying to get ANT to re-deploy a webapp to Tomcat 5 via AnthillPro. Works from command line, but hangs AnthillPro. A little background... I first tried the ant-tomcat tasks to simply undeploy/deploy but the Flex app (inside util.war) has problems undeploying - there is a directory filled with jars that cannot be removed. So I decided to just stop tomcat, wipe out the directory and redeploy... It all works... the build is a success... but Anthillpro hangs at the end. :-( I just don't get it. (I've tried exec with startup and startup-using-launcher... with and without spawn. It really does need spawn, otherwise it understandibly does not finish the build process. A hint: the Tomcat tasks are more trouble than they are worth. They don't work. I just run tomcat in a console window and restart it whenever I redeploy. Slower, but it's consistently correct. If you installed the Tomcat service you can use the control panel to start/stop (but I prefer the console so that I can see what's going on). Better yet use Resin (http://www.caucho.com) which is faster to start and stop. It has a control panel also (no service install, however). - Drew -- +-+ < Drew Davidson | OGNL Technology > +-+ | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / |Web: http://www.ognl.org / |Vox: (520) 531-1966 < |Fax: (520) 531-1965\ | Mobile: (520) 405-2967 \ +-+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jug-discussion] Ant and Anthill Spawn o' the Devil
I'm going nuts. I've been trying to get ANT to re-deploy a webapp to Tomcat 5 via AnthillPro. Works from command line, but hangs AnthillPro. A little background... I first tried the ant-tomcat tasks to simply undeploy/deploy but the Flex app (inside util.war) has problems undeploying - there is a directory filled with jars that cannot be removed. So I decided to just stop tomcat, wipe out the directory and redeploy... It all works... the build is a success... but Anthillpro hangs at the end. :-( I just don't get it. (I've tried exec with startup and startup-using-launcher... with and without spawn. It really does need spawn, otherwise it understandibly does not finish the build process. Ideas? Timo INFO - Buildfile: remote-deploy.xmlINFO - INFO - tc5stop:INFO - [exec] Using CATALINA_BASE: C:\java\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28INFO - [exec] Using CATALINA_HOME: C:\java\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28INFO - [exec] Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: C:\java\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\tempINFO - [exec] Using JAVA_HOME: C:\java\j2sdk1.4.2_03INFO - INFO - INFO - INFO - wait:INFO - INFO - cleanwebapp:INFO - [delete] Deleting directory C:\java\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\utilINFO - [delete] Deleting: C:\java\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webapps\util.warINFO - INFO - copywar:INFO - [copy] Copying 1 file to C:\java\jakarta-tomcat-5.0.28\webappsINFO - INFO - tc5start:INFO - [echo] Started TC5INFO - [echo] Going to inline sleep...INFO - [echo] Waking upINFO - INFO - stop-remove-install:INFO - [echo] Stopped TC, cleaned up, moved in the war, and restartedINFO - INFO - BUILD SUCCESSFULINFO - Total time: 13 seconds todir="${tomcat5.home}/webapps/" />