RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Michael Oliver
, January 10, 2005 4:05 AM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring On Jan 9, 2005, at 8:08 PM, josh zeidner wrote: One question: is there anyone on this list who does not advocate the Spring Framework? Is there anyone who does not advocate

Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Bryan . ONeal
-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring Nicholas, Of course Spring is simpler! because it doesn't try to solve as many problems, instead the developer / architect has to write and support that code him or herself! At the cost of the customer! I am surely

Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Warner Onstine
- From: josh zeidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:52:43 To:jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring Nicholas, Of course Spring is simpler! because it doesn't try to solve as many problems, instead the developer / architect has

[jug-discussion] Spring FUD is unfounded.... RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Richard Hightower
### -Original Message- From: Randolph Kahle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:26 AM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring On Jan 9, 2005, at 3:52 PM, josh zeidner wrote: [...] If I were a manager I

Re: [jug-discussion] Spring FUD is unfounded.... RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Robert Zeigler
Richard Hightower wrote: Tuesday should be a lively discussion. I am sharpening my tongue. :o) On that note... will you be presenting your spring pres. to us? Or am I still presenting NIO? =) (Again... I'm perfectly happy presenting; I'm perfectly happy not presenting. Just so long as I know

RE: [jug-discussion] Spring FUD is unfounded.... RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Richard Hightower
### -Original Message- From: Randolph Kahle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:26 AM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring On Jan 9, 2005, at 3:52 PM, josh zeidner wrote: [...] If I were a manager I

RE: [jug-discussion] Spring FUD is unfounded.... RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Bryan . ONeal
: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring Is any one able to do an audio/video/notes cache of the presentation for us/me? (Not be in Tucson is a real drag sometimes ;) On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, Robert Zeigler wrote: Richard Hightower wrote: Tuesday should be a lively discussion. I

RE: [jug-discussion] Spring FUD is unfounded.... RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-10 Thread Michael Oliver
10, 2005 10:29 AM To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Spring FUD is unfounded RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring I apologize for being a little rough. -Original Message- From: Richard Hightower [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday

Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-09 Thread josh zeidner
Hello Richard, I did make a recent comment about Spring on Azipa so I feel obligated to make a statement here. The general question that I am interested in is: how is Spring going to make my life easier? Although it claims to be some kind of 'cure' for the 'problems of EJB' it appears to be

Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-09 Thread Nicholas Lesiecki
Nicholas, Of course Spring is simpler! because it doesn't try... I refer you to: http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail20.html Drew will know what I'm talking about :-) Cheers, Nicholas Lesiecki Software Craftsman, specializing in J2EE, Agile Methods, and aspect-oriented programming m: 520 591-1849

Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-09 Thread Ollie
Me thinks the lady protesteth too much. -Original Message- From: josh zeidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:52:43 To:jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring Nicholas, Of course Spring is simpler! because it doesn't

Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-09 Thread josh zeidner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me thinks the lady protesteth too much. -Original Message- From: josh zeidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:52:43 To:jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring Nicholas, Of course

RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-09 Thread Richard Hightower
Darn. The thought of Warner being my mother has really disturbed. I think it is goatee. -Original Message- From: Ollie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:57 PM To: Jug Discuss Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring Thanks mom -Original

RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-09 Thread Richard Hightower
article on Spring Darn. The thought of Warner being my mother has really disturbed. I think it is goatee. -Original Message- From: Ollie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:57 PM To: Jug Discuss Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring Thanks mom

RE: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-09 Thread Richard Hightower
Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring Hello Richard, I did make a recent comment about Spring on Azipa so I feel obligated to make a statement here. The general question that I am interested in is: how is Spring going to make my life easier? Although it claims to be some

[jug-discussion] JDJ: Featured article on Spring

2005-01-08 Thread Richard Hightower
If you have not looked into Spring yet, it is time. That's Rick Hightower's New Year's advice. As Rod Johnson once put it: Spring puts the OO back in J2EE development, he continues. What makes Spring different than the other frameworks and containers, Hightower explains, is that Spring goes beyond