Re: [jug-discussion] +1 for the OR tools preso sans EJB CMP CMR Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Warner Onstine
On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 03:33 PM, Richard Hightower wrote: EJB CMP/CMR provides OR support, and it is much more than an O/R tool. But Nick and I presented on EJB CMP CMR in Dec. 2001 for the Tucson JUG. Then, Andy recently did a presentation on it (May 2002). Also, I wrote a 4

Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Richard Hightower
it has OR support > +1 for O/R tools. > > I don't think EJB counts as an O/R tool, and the EJB vs. O/R tools > discussion would make a fine topic all by its self. I would especially > like to see a knowledgable proponent for each "duke" it out. Maybe we > could find an impartial (hah!) moderator

[jug-discussion] +1 for the OR tools preso sans EJB CMP CMR Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Richard Hightower
EJB CMP/CMR provides OR support, and it is much more than an O/R tool. But Nick and I presented on EJB CMP CMR in Dec. 2001 for the Tucson JUG. Then, Andy recently did a presentation on it (May 2002). Also, I wrote a 4 part tutorial for IBM on it. And, I have been speaking about it at three d

Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Rene Stone
I'd also just like to see the O/R tools for the presentation sans EJB. Rene Warner Onstine wrote: Ok, Before we get too deep here, I would like to know if we have enough +1's for O/R tools for the meeting: Tim +1 Warner +1 Nick +1 (even if no EJB?) Andy +1 Tom Hicks +1 I'll throw in Drew's +1

Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Eddie Dimond
+1 for the O/R tools comparison. I agree that adding EJB would be too much in one presentation. Eddie --- Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, > Before we get too deep here, I would like to know if we have > enough > +1's for O/R tools for the meeting: > Tim +1 > Warner +1 > Nick +1

Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Simon Ritchie
Tim, That's great. You're on the list then. So far, then, for the December presentation we have: Short presentation- Tim speaking on Thinlets Long presentation- Warner speaking on O/R Tools If we get more suggestions we'll have a vote. Simon. Tim Colson wrote: Simon - We still need a go

RE: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Jon Thomas
I stayed at the Vegas Hilton but I heard Luxor had a great breakfast buffet -Original Message- From: Tim Colson [mailto:tcolson@;cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap Simon - > We still nee

RE: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Tim Colson
Simon - > We still need a good supply of 15 min presenters though, so don't > hesitate to volunteer if you think of something. My offer to do a quickie preso on Thinlet.com stuff still stands if anyone is interested. FYI - I'm also looking into enode.com, swingml.com, and luxor...but thinlet w

Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Simon Ritchie
A presentation on O/R Tools sounds great. I have quite an interest in the subject since we wrote one at AMO. I don't have anything lined up for the December presentation, so this sounds fantastic. We still need a good supply of 15 min presenters though, so don't hesitate to volunteer if you th

Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Vincent Greene
+1 for O/R tools. I don't think EJB counts as an O/R tool, and the EJB vs. O/R tools discussion would make a fine topic all by its self. I would especially like to see a knowledgable proponent for each "duke" it out. Maybe we could find an impartial (hah!) moderator. Warner Onstine wrote: > Ok

[jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Warner Onstine
Ok, Before we get too deep here, I would like to know if we have enough +1's for O/R tools for the meeting: Tim +1 Warner +1 Nick +1 (even if no EJB?) Andy +1 Tom Hicks +1 I'll throw in Drew's +1, because he asked me about Torque a while ago, but I don't know if he'll be able to make it and I kn