Re: [jug-discussion] tasks that developers do when learning a new language?

2007-04-25 Thread William H. Mitchell
I started out on a list of things to see if/how a new language has, but I suppose I've ended up with more of a wish list: Operator overloading, with arbitrary operators Support for functions as values Curried functions Anonymous functions Function composition Tuples

Re: [jug-discussion] tasks that developers do when learning a new language?

2007-04-24 Thread Chad Woolley
I knew there was some AOP library for Ruby but hadn't looked at it. It looks like AspectR is rather limited, I think this is the control-flow feature I'd want in order to only do something in the context of a view, but it doesn't seem to have it: control-flow based crosscutting Anyway, I'd be

Re: [jug-discussion] tasks that developers do when learning a new language?

2007-04-23 Thread Chad Woolley
How OO is it? In Ruby, for better or for worse, everything is an object. Even classes themselves are objects. This makes it possible (if not prudent) to do pretty much anything. How does it support cross-cutting concerns? Lately, I have been missing the ability to do Aspect-oriented

Re: [jug-discussion] tasks that developers do when learning a new language?

2007-04-22 Thread cara
During initial playing, I'm often curious how easy it is to do math. Will I be able to understand my equations two weeks from now ... are numbers full blown objects etc. I also agree with Todd, but I often have two conflicting goals with languages: 1. can I do something fast, 2. can I do things

[jug-discussion] tasks that developers do when learning a new language?

2007-04-21 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, I was just curious, when you start learning a new language, what do try and do first? Here are some of the ones that I look at: - looping (how do I do a for loop) - if, then, else - switches (do they exist?) - object and array creation (what types are there and how do I do it) In a

Re: [jug-discussion] tasks that developers do when learning a new language?

2007-04-21 Thread Todd Ellermann
a SunCat? or a WildDevil? - Original Message From: Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:47:39 PM Subject: [jug-discussion] tasks that developers do when learning a new language? Hi all, I was just curious, when you start learning