Re: [jug-discussion] MS Access / Filemaker like front-end for MySQL/Oracle?

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Zeigler
Jumping into this conversation. a little late, but... :)
I'm not sure how much detail, etc. you need, but open office v2 includes
Openoffice Base, which is an MS Access-ish program. I haven't played
with it much. By default, it uses hsqldb to create databases, but, like
access, you can connect to pretty much any db (mysql and oracle, as
well).  It'll let you create forms, reports, queries, etc. Again, I
haven't used it much so I can't really vouch for quality or ease of use,
but it might be worth checking into.

Robert

Jon Thomas wrote:
 on the free front, Aqua Data Studio is really really good, but I don't
 think its a graphical IDE like Access.
 
 On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Tim Colson ((tcolson)) wrote:
 
 MS Access will allow you to attach to any ODBC datasource
 including Oracle and do some really fun stuff.
 Yep, that is definitely an option worth consideration. I seem to recall
 having pain when I did this in the past because MS Access frankly wasn't
 built to play nice (imho) with anything besides JET and SQL Server. ;-)


 Toad is the
 other product I always think of when talking about Oracle made easy.
 I've got Toad, good stuff...but I'd categorize that as a tool for
 DBA/Developers...not so much for end users.

 You won't mind me replying to your non-java question, because
 (even though I was born in Tucson) I live in Scottsdale.
 Guess that makes me not really a qualified TJUG member. ;)
 lol... I'm pleased you didn't just throw the email into /dev/null.
 grin

 Timo

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Re: [jug-discussion] MS Access / Filemaker like front-end for MySQL/Oracle?

2006-07-28 Thread Art Gramlich

 thought they were using derby now and not hsqldb?

On Jul 28, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Robert Zeigler wrote:


Jumping into this conversation. a little late, but... :)
I'm not sure how much detail, etc. you need, but open office v2  
includes

Openoffice Base, which is an MS Access-ish program. I haven't played
with it much. By default, it uses hsqldb to create databases, but,  
like

access, you can connect to pretty much any db (mysql and oracle, as
well).  It'll let you create forms, reports, queries, etc. Again, I
haven't used it much so I can't really vouch for quality or ease of  
use,

but it might be worth checking into.

Robert

Jon Thomas wrote:
on the free front, Aqua Data Studio is really really good, but I  
don't

think its a graphical IDE like Access.

On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Tim Colson ((tcolson)) wrote:


MS Access will allow you to attach to any ODBC datasource
including Oracle and do some really fun stuff.
Yep, that is definitely an option worth consideration. I seem to  
recall
having pain when I did this in the past because MS Access frankly  
wasn't
built to play nice (imho) with anything besides JET and SQL  
Server. ;-)




Toad is the
other product I always think of when talking about Oracle made  
easy.

I've got Toad, good stuff...but I'd categorize that as a tool for
DBA/Developers...not so much for end users.


You won't mind me replying to your non-java question, because
(even though I was born in Tucson) I live in Scottsdale.
Guess that makes me not really a qualified TJUG member. ;)

lol... I'm pleased you didn't just throw the email into /dev/null.
grin

Timo

 
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Re: [jug-discussion] MS Access / Filemaker like front-end for MySQL/Oracle?

2006-07-28 Thread Chad Woolley

Just out of curiosity, why isn't dabbledb a contender?

On 7/27/06, Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



You guessed it, this probably has nothing to do with Java. Go ahead, ban me
from the list. :-P

I'm looking for something that smells like MS Access (or better) Filemaker
that enables a nitwit (i.e. end user) to flip data around, edit it,
import/export it... solution must be multi-user, and can't be web-based.

The tool must be ridiculously snappy because it will compete for mindshare
with Excel...even though we all know Excel is for flippin' calculations...
not manipulating tables of data...but that's how people use it...they
filter, they sort, they copy/paste, they fill-down. It is what it is. Excel
is a better mousetrap for most folks.

You might say, Well...then just flippin' use MS Access + SQL Server...and
go away from this Java User Group list, ya foolhardy nitwit!

B. SQL Server isn't an option.

There's gotta be some desktop app that does some of the neat trickery that
the http://www.dabbledb.com folks do in a webapp... something that will run
cross-platform and connect to Oracle or MySQL for data.

Yes...I realize what I'm asking about is a 4GL Client/Server app. Go ahead
and tell me why that's stupid you must...and I'll ignore it with as much
aplomb as I can muster. grin


Cheers,
Timo







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Re: [jug-discussion] MS Access / Filemaker like front-end for MySQL/Oracle?

2006-07-27 Thread Todd Ellermann
MS Access will allow you to attach to any ODBC datasource including
Oracle and do some really fun stuff.  Toad is the other product I
always think of when talking about Oracle made easy.
-Todd 

You won't mind me replying to your non-java question, because (even
though I was born in Tucson) I live in Scottsdale.  Guess that makes me
not really a qualified TJUG member. ;)



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