Re: disabling upgrades on new machines by default?

2014-10-02 Thread Matt Rae
I don't think the upgrade matters as much as speed. I feel like most users know to manage updates already, with their own policies, and that the fast user experience is important. Even if juju upgrades initially, users will still need to manage updates after, so I'm not sure how much the initial

Re: disabling upgrades on new machines by default?

2014-10-02 Thread Matt Rae
Thanks Dave! A downside to disabling upgrades is that users may have a bad experience if broken packages get installed and their services don't work. Not sure how often this would happen. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:19 AM, David Cheney david.che...@canonical.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at

Re: disabling upgrades on new machines by default?

2014-10-02 Thread Mark Ramm-Christensen (Canonical.com)
In practice, it almost never happens. I don't remember seeing anything actually from the archive break a charm on update -- though the cloud tools pocket did have a breakage about 8 months ago which did bad things. --Mark Ramm On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Matt Rae matt@canonical.com

Re: disabling upgrades on new machines by default?

2014-10-02 Thread Robert Jennings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Why not change the image-stream to 'daily' from 'release' rather than altering whether or not we update packages on an instance? The default environment configuration specifies that the image stream is 'releases' rather than 'daily'. This means

[Review Queue] rabbitmq-server

2014-10-02 Thread Adam Israel
Yesterday during my review queue time, I revisited a MP[1] I had worked on the previous week. With the information provided by gnuoy, I was able to fully test the rabbitmq-server against bug #1355848[2] and I am happy to report that the bug is fixed by this MP and have approved it.

juju stable 1.20.9 is released

2014-10-02 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.20.9 A new stable release of Juju, juju-core 1.20.9, is now available. This release replaces stable 1.20.8. Getting Juju juju-core 1.20.9 is available for utopic and backported to earlier series in the following PPA: https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/stable Notable

Re: disabling upgrades on new machines by default?

2014-10-02 Thread José Antonio Rey
In terms of 'upgrading later', Juju is built for not going into the machines after they are launched. Bare that in mind. -- José Antonio Rey On Oct 2, 2014 8:19 AM, David Cheney david.che...@canonical.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Matt Rae matt@canonical.com wrote: I don't

Re: disabling upgrades on new machines by default?

2014-10-02 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 02/10/14 15:46, Robert Jennings wrote: Why not change the image-stream to 'daily' from 'release' rather than altering whether or not we update packages on an instance? The default environment configuration specifies that the image stream is 'releases' rather than 'daily'. This means that

Re: disabling upgrades on new machines by default?

2014-10-02 Thread Akash Chandrashekar
I wanted to throw some insight from a field perspective on juju upgrades and or updates ~ which I hope is helpful, and in the spirit and in line with this discussion. Here are my notes : 1) Stable juju versions : Once a customer ends up finding a juju-core, juju-gui version that works with

juju 1.20.10.is proposed for release

2014-10-02 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.20.10 A new proposed stable release of Juju, juju-core 1.20.10, is now available. This release may replace stable 1.20.9 after a period of evaluation. If no issues are raised about this version, it will released on or after October 7, 2014. Getting Juju juju-core 1.20.10 is

Landing job uses pre-push script

2014-10-02 Thread Martin Packman
The landing job for juju now uses the pre-push script from the juju branch before running tests. This means it's running go vet over the source, and I've fixed a couple of errors on master. What it doesn't do currently is fail the landing if vet reports issues, as the script doesn't fail in this

Juju Scale Test

2014-10-02 Thread Mike Sam
I was wondering what is the largest vm count that has been provisioned and deployed with juju in testing so far? In other words, what is the demonstrated scale that juju has proven to handle well so far? Thanks, Mike -- Juju-dev mailing list Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: Juju Scale Test

2014-10-02 Thread Charles Butler
There's this article which was published a while ago: https://maas.ubuntu.com/2012/06/04/scaling-a-2000-node-hadoop-cluster-on-ec2ubuntu-with-juju/ Hope this helps, Charles On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Mike Sam mikesam...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering what is the largest vm count that

Re: Juju Scale Test

2014-10-02 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
Unfortunately that's not very representative of the current implementation as it was based on pyjuju while the current implementation is in go and utilizing mongodb instead of zookeeper. -kapil On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Charles Butler charles.but...@canonical.com wrote: There's this

juju stable 1.20.9 is released

2014-10-02 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.20.9 A new stable release of Juju, juju-core 1.20.9, is now available. This release replaces stable 1.20.8. Getting Juju juju-core 1.20.9 is available for utopic and backported to earlier series in the following PPA: https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/stable Notable

juju 1.20.10.is proposed for release

2014-10-02 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
juju-core 1.20.10 A new proposed stable release of Juju, juju-core 1.20.10, is now available. This release may replace stable 1.20.9 after a period of evaluation. If no issues are raised about this version, it will released on or after October 7, 2014. Getting Juju juju-core 1.20.10 is