Re: About bootstrap server , size and dedicate or share it for applications or not

2015-01-15 Thread Dimiter Naydenov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 1.- I have been able to use a 613MB RAM server for a development environment, but a 1GB RAM server is recommended. You should also ensure the machine has enough disk space for the MongoDB database, which IIRC by default is configured to

Re: About bootstrap server , size and dedicate or share it for applications or not

2015-01-15 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-01-15 16:37 GMT+03:00 Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com: The next version of Juju should support using the same Juju server (bootstrap) for many environments. So, on a single Juju server you can have many environments. So you only need one Juju server, or you might want one Juju server

Re: About bootstrap server , size and dedicate or share it for applications or not

2015-01-15 Thread Vahric Muhtaryan
Hello Mark :) Actually I think that instead of install bootstrap server and client separately , in cloud, deploy an Ubuntu Desktop and access it with VNC :) Maybe we can provide image base backup solution for customer to keep single juju bootstrap server, I guess juju bootstrap server could be

Re: Question regarding --upload-tools and implications

2015-01-15 Thread Dimiter Naydenov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 4) IIRC we use the version of the juju client when we upload, not the version of the jujud binary. Eg if you happen to have a 1.22 jujud on your system but you use a 1.23-beta2 client we'll upload it but call it 1.23.0.1-beta2. From there

Re: Question regarding --upload-tools and implications

2015-01-15 Thread Charles Butler
I think the overwhelming response here amounts to There be dragons there. I had suspected that what I was doing was potentially dangerous in long running environments. Thanks for all the information! On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Charles Butler charles.but...@canonical.com wrote:

Re: Lets version lock the docs!

2015-01-15 Thread Nick Veitch
I agree that we wish to update old versions. It isn't so much work if: 1. We remain reasonably consistent, so merges can easily be done across multiple branches. Therefore, keep your merges small and limited to single files where possible - if you have more to update, do it in different branches.

Re: About bootstrap server , size and dedicate or share it for applications or not

2015-01-15 Thread Vahric Muhtaryan
Thanks Dimiter Right now I m using it with manual Lxc , I do not have an experience about but looks like need to check Also will care about disk space Regards VM On 15/01/15 17:20, Dimiter Naydenov dimiter.nayde...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 1.- I have

Re: Lets version lock the docs!

2015-01-15 Thread Jeff Pihach
+1 with a note. I've been involved with projects who have versioned docs with users on multiple versions and an issue which came up quite frequently was that it was a hassle to update legacy versions with more information. A somewhat contrived example could be that we want to add additional

how to correctly update a juju unit's config with local provider (lxc)?

2015-01-15 Thread Caio Begotti
Folks, I had to update an unit config to change its LXC policy today. I lxc-stopped the unit, updated its config file and then lxc-started it again with -d. So far so good. Then I noticed juju ssh unit/0 stopped working. Permission denied every time, probably because the unit IP address changed

Re: About bootstrap server , size and dedicate or share it for applications or not

2015-01-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 15/01/15 15:25, Vahric Muhtaryan wrote: I m so new to juju and try to learn it. We are cloud provider and we would like to push our customers use it . Welcome! My question is a bootstrap server is need but this means additional resource is needed , means customer need to pay more What

Juju presence at FOSSDEM and CFGMGMTCAMP

2015-01-15 Thread Charles Butler
Greetings! While we wont be giving an official talk at FOSDEM, I'll be roaming around the grounds giving hallway tracks and would like to put together a phaux birds of a feather style round table meet and greet / talk if anyone is interested and will be in Brussels during FOSDEM. Just reach out

Re: Question regarding --upload-tools and implications

2015-01-15 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:58 AM, John Meinel j...@arbash-meinel.com wrote: So the main caveats as I see them are: 1) since it didn't come from an official source we flag it as such (the mechanism was originally developed to allow developers to test out their in-progress code changes). So your