Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-19 Thread James Page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 18/03/14 18:42, brian mullan wrote: hey good to see you diving in g. not sure if you read the whole thread but on my orig. post I mentioned I was testing ,,, in ubuntu 14.04.. lxc 1.x, juju and juju-gui and the new juju-bundle for --

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-18 Thread brian mullan
mark.. hey good to see you diving in g. not sure if you read the whole thread but on my orig. post I mentioned I was testing ,,, in ubuntu 14.04.. lxc 1.x, juju and juju-gui and the new juju-bundle for -- openstack. On my system... everything on juju-gui eventually showed green except.. nova

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-17 Thread brian mullan
John thanks for your note. Yes I have used Juju before to deploy and use OpenStack on KVM as well as on vmware.. *This was an experiment*. But in OpenStack the virtualization type of the vm is specified by the hypervisor configured for OpenStack (kvm, xen, vmware etc). The OpenStack site

RE: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-17 Thread Sameer Zeidat
james.p...@ubuntu.com Cc: juju juju@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum great information.. thanks James! On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:21 AM, James Page james.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Brian I responded

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-17 Thread Tim Fall
Just to clear up a little confusion. OpenStack does support LXC as a “compute hypervisor” (i.e. it can be used instead of kvm, qemu, esxi, etc.). Be sure to check out the Compute Hypervisor Support Matrix for what features are supported on each (and whether they’ll be removed in the future).

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-17 Thread brian mullan
Here are a couple of scenario's for openstack/lxc that I think are interesting. ARM x64 cpu are now available and use 1/8th the power of an intel cpu ... given its hard to compare apples to oranges here. Ubuntu LXC can both be used on ARM x64 systems. For today's DataCenters the biggest

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-16 Thread brian mullan
OpenStack itself says it supports LXC: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/lxc.html and although a bit dated this OpenStack doc shows (under Ubuntu Natty)... some config setup info: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LXC My orig post had said 2 OpenStack services were left in

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-16 Thread John Meinel
I believe that Nova Compute itself prefers to deploy its units as KVM. (So when a user connects to your Openstack deployment and asks for a VM, they will get a KVM backed machine). IIRC, you *cannot* create a KVM container inside an LXC container. So you wouldn't be able to deploy Nova-compute

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-15 Thread John Meinel
I'm pretty sure Quantum can't be deployed in LXC because it needs direct access to block devices. I could be wrong. John =:- On Mar 15, 2014 2:08 PM, brian mullan bmullan.m...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I'd try using some of the cool new stuff.. so with latest lxc 1.0 JuJu JuJu-gui installed

Re: JuJu, LXC, OpenStack charm problem w/Nova Quantum

2014-03-15 Thread Adam Stokes
I also think that nova and lxc do not mingle well either. I've typically deployed nova in a kvm instance instead On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 1:26 PM, John Meinel j...@arbash-meinel.com wrote: I'm pretty sure Quantum can't be deployed in LXC because it needs direct access to block devices. I could