Re: supplement open--port/close-port with ensure-these-and-only-these-ports?

2014-11-03 Thread Aaron Bentley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-11-01 12:58 PM, John Meinel wrote: I believe there is already opened-ports to tell you what ports Juju is currently tracking. Kapil says that's in 1.21 and I was using released juju, so I didn't see that. Cool. For stateful charms, I

Re: supplement open--port/close-port with ensure-these-and-only-these-ports?

2014-11-03 Thread Curtis Hovey-Canonical
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Kapil Thangavelu kapil.thangav...@canonical.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, John Meinel j...@arbash-meinel.com wrote: I believe there is already opened-ports to tell you what ports Juju is currently tracking. That's cool and news to me, it looks

Re: supplement open--port/close-port with ensure-these-and-only-these-ports?

2014-11-03 Thread Dimiter Naydenov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey, Sorry for not announcing the changes to open-port, close-port, and the introduction of opened-ports. This was due to the discussions around the networking model, i.e. things were changing rapidly and I wasn't even sure it's worth announcing it

Re: supplement open--port/close-port with ensure-these-and-only-these-ports?

2014-11-03 Thread Gustavo Niemeyer
Reminding people of everything they should *not be doing *to get a feature to be listed in the release notes is very ineffective. What should they *be doing* instead, and why will the process work in the future when it clearly has failed before, despite the assumed good intention we should assume