Re: Local provider - isolating sudo usage

2014-01-25 Thread roger peppe
On 25 January 2014 01:58, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:24 AM, roger peppe roger.pe...@canonical.com
 wrote:

 On 24 January 2014 10:59, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:38 PM, roger peppe
  roger.pe...@canonical.com
  wrote:
 
  On 24 January 2014 01:14, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com
  wrote:
   I removed this bits that chown to the user from the local provider. I
   can't,
   unfortunately, easily remove the only other remaining part: chowning
   the
   ~/.juju/ssh dir and keys. Suggestions welcome.
 
  There's also a Chown in environs/configstore that I'd very much like to
  see go.
 
 
  Thanks, I missed that one.
 
 
  Could you expand on why it's hard to avoid chowning the ~/.juju/ssh dir
  for someone that's not that familiar with this area?
 
  AFAICS the writeAuthorizedKeys function that creates the directory
  is called by AddKeys, which is called directly from cmd/juju, which
  will be running as the correct user. What am I missing?
 
 
  writeAuthorisedKeys is not the problem, it's utils/ssh.LoadClientKeys
  that
  causes grief. This function will create ~/.juju/ssh and a key pair
  inside it
  if they don't exist. This function is called by juju.InitJujuHome, so
  very
  early on in the process. Doing it in InitJujuHome felt dirty, but I
  couldn't
  think of a better place at the time. More on this in a moment...

 Ah, InitJujuHome definitely seems like a not-so-great place for this.
 I use that function in various client programs, and I would not
 expect it to have side-effects.

  When I encountered this problem, I wondered whether we could just
  prevent
  root from executing the CLI at all (by erroring out, not by any OS
  mechanism). This won't work with the local provider as it is, as Destroy
  must be run as root. Destroy calls back into the CLI via sudo. This
  could be
  changed, at the cost of making destruction more complicated.
 
  On reflection, after you mentioned configstore, I'm thinking that
  perhaps
  LoadClientKeys could be called in environs.ConfigForName (or nearby),
  with a
  sync.Once. We could then disallow preparing an environment as the root
  user,
  which covers both the configstore case and the LoadClientKeys one. What
  do
  you think about that option?

 Rather than add side-effects onto existing functions, could we not
 add an explicit call, say EnsureClientKeys, and call it from juju
 bootstrap?


 I'm happy to rename.

 Calling it at bootstrap time doesn't help, though, I think. authorized_keys
 is determined prior to calling Prepare, and the environments dir is created
 even before that, I think. I'd check for sure, but about to hop on a
 plane...

I think I wasn't clear there. When I said call it from juju bootstrap,
meant call it directly from BootstrapCommand.Run, just before
the call to environs.PrepareFromName. We'd add the same call
to SyncToolsCommand too.

An alternative might be to add it as another side-effect to PrepareFromName,
but that seems wrong - its only side-effects are currently on the
storage interface
that's passed in.

  cheers,
rog.

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Re: Local provider - isolating sudo usage

2014-01-24 Thread roger peppe
On 24 January 2014 01:14, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com wrote:
 I removed this bits that chown to the user from the local provider. I can't,
 unfortunately, easily remove the only other remaining part: chowning the
 ~/.juju/ssh dir and keys. Suggestions welcome.

There's also a Chown in environs/configstore that I'd very much like to see go.

Could you expand on why it's hard to avoid chowning the ~/.juju/ssh dir
for someone that's not that familiar with this area?

AFAICS the writeAuthorizedKeys function that creates the directory
is called by AddKeys, which is called directly from cmd/juju, which
will be running as the correct user. What am I missing?

  cheers,
rog.

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Re: Local provider - isolating sudo usage

2014-01-24 Thread Andrew Wilkins
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:24 AM, roger peppe roger.pe...@canonical.comwrote:

 On 24 January 2014 10:59, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:38 PM, roger peppe roger.pe...@canonical.com
 
  wrote:
 
  On 24 January 2014 01:14, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com
  wrote:
   I removed this bits that chown to the user from the local provider. I
   can't,
   unfortunately, easily remove the only other remaining part: chowning
 the
   ~/.juju/ssh dir and keys. Suggestions welcome.
 
  There's also a Chown in environs/configstore that I'd very much like to
  see go.
 
 
  Thanks, I missed that one.
 
 
  Could you expand on why it's hard to avoid chowning the ~/.juju/ssh dir
  for someone that's not that familiar with this area?
 
  AFAICS the writeAuthorizedKeys function that creates the directory
  is called by AddKeys, which is called directly from cmd/juju, which
  will be running as the correct user. What am I missing?
 
 
  writeAuthorisedKeys is not the problem, it's utils/ssh.LoadClientKeys
 that
  causes grief. This function will create ~/.juju/ssh and a key pair
 inside it
  if they don't exist. This function is called by juju.InitJujuHome, so
 very
  early on in the process. Doing it in InitJujuHome felt dirty, but I
 couldn't
  think of a better place at the time. More on this in a moment...

 Ah, InitJujuHome definitely seems like a not-so-great place for this.
 I use that function in various client programs, and I would not
 expect it to have side-effects.

  When I encountered this problem, I wondered whether we could just prevent
  root from executing the CLI at all (by erroring out, not by any OS
  mechanism). This won't work with the local provider as it is, as Destroy
  must be run as root. Destroy calls back into the CLI via sudo. This
 could be
  changed, at the cost of making destruction more complicated.
 
  On reflection, after you mentioned configstore, I'm thinking that perhaps
  LoadClientKeys could be called in environs.ConfigForName (or nearby),
 with a
  sync.Once. We could then disallow preparing an environment as the root
 user,
  which covers both the configstore case and the LoadClientKeys one. What
 do
  you think about that option?

 Rather than add side-effects onto existing functions, could we not
 add an explicit call, say EnsureClientKeys, and call it from juju
 bootstrap?


I'm happy to rename.

Calling it at bootstrap time doesn't help, though, I think. authorized_keys
is determined prior to calling Prepare, and the environments dir is created
even before that, I think. I'd check for sure, but about to hop on a
plane...
I think EnsureClientKeys should be called just before the call to
utils/ssh.PublicKeyFiles.

That way running juju help doesn't automatically create a ~/.juju/ssh
 directory, for one. And no sync.Once necessary.

 Might that work?

   cheers,
 rog.
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Re: Local provider - isolating sudo usage

2014-01-23 Thread Nate Finch
That sounds awesome.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Andrew Wilkins 
andrew.wilk...@canonical.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm working on changing the local provider so that sudo is not needed from
 outside Juju; juju bootstrap and juju destroy-environment will prompt
 as necessary.

 I would like to also prevent Juju from allowing the user to run with sudo
 from the outside. This will allow us to remove all of the code pathways
 that change ownership to the sudo caller, and avoid future breakages.

 Does anyone have any strong reasons for not doing this?

 Cheers,
 Andrew

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Re: Local provider - isolating sudo usage

2014-01-23 Thread Aaron Bentley
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On 14-01-22 06:12 PM, Andrew Wilkins wrote:

 I would like to also prevent Juju from allowing the user to run
 with sudo from the outside. This will allow us to remove all of the
 code pathways that change ownership to the sudo caller, and avoid
 future breakages.

As a user who has to work around the chown bug frequently, that sounds
great to me.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1245647

Aaron
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Re: Local provider - isolating sudo usage

2014-01-23 Thread roger peppe
Thank you! Let's get rid of every chown in the code base.

On 22 January 2014 23:12, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I'm working on changing the local provider so that sudo is not needed from
 outside Juju; juju bootstrap and juju destroy-environment will prompt as
 necessary.

 I would like to also prevent Juju from allowing the user to run with sudo
 from the outside. This will allow us to remove all of the code pathways that
 change ownership to the sudo caller, and avoid future breakages.

 Does anyone have any strong reasons for not doing this?

 Cheers,
 Andrew

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Re: Local provider - isolating sudo usage

2014-01-23 Thread Andrew Wilkins
The core local provider changes have been merged now. For a summary of how
the local provider bootstraps now, see:
https://codereview.appspot.com/55880043/

I removed this bits that chown to the user from the local provider. I
can't, unfortunately, easily remove the only other remaining part: chowning
the ~/.juju/ssh dir and keys. Suggestions welcome.

Cheers,
Andrew


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:34 AM, roger peppe roger.pe...@canonical.comwrote:

 Thank you! Let's get rid of every chown in the code base.

 On 22 January 2014 23:12, Andrew Wilkins andrew.wilk...@canonical.com
 wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  I'm working on changing the local provider so that sudo is not needed
 from
  outside Juju; juju bootstrap and juju destroy-environment will
 prompt as
  necessary.
 
  I would like to also prevent Juju from allowing the user to run with sudo
  from the outside. This will allow us to remove all of the code pathways
 that
  change ownership to the sudo caller, and avoid future breakages.
 
  Does anyone have any strong reasons for not doing this?
 
  Cheers,
  Andrew
 
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