date:20150624

[JPP-Devel] OJ behaviour when it is closed without saving project file

2015-06-24 Thread Giuseppe Aruta

Hi all,
I already post this mail to [JUMP] lis SVN. I put here also for user who
are not involved on developing just to explore other opinion.

The test I did is on OpenJUMP 4508. This is a OJ behavior when it is closed
before saving the project file, *in italics my comments*:

a) Open OJ and *load a vector* layer. Than close OJ.
OJ shuts down with no warning to save the project.
*This is a bit ambiguous as an user wants maybe only to loads vectors and
save the project with no need do perform analysis .* I*n my opinion OJ
should anyhow warns users if save the project*

b) Open OJ and *create a vector* file, Than close OJ.
There are two types of warning according to what happens:
- if the new layer is only created OJ warns that an automatically generated
layer is not saved - (automatically generated warning)
- if the new file is created and modified (ex. adding a feature), OJ warns
that one (or more) datasets has been modified. - (modified warning)
*This is OK. We probably can extend both warning dialog adding a list of
the name of unsaved/modified layers*

c) Open OJ and l*oad a Sextante Raster* Layer. Than close OJ
See OJ behaviour and comments at point a)

d) Open OJ, load a Sextante Raster Layer, than *create a new Sextante
Raster* layer using Sextante Toolbox or other OJ tools. Than Close OJ (no
vectors loaded/created).
OJ shuts down with no no warning to save the project.
*This is fatal for users who are not aware about it, as they can loose all
their work. We should add a warning message, like in point b) warning users
that 1d) new raster layers have been created, 2d) these layers are
temporary layers (they are saved into OS temp folder, users can lost them
if they shut down the computer)*

e) Open OJ and *load a WMS* Layer. Than close OJ
See OJ behaviour and comments at point a)


My conclusion:
1) I think we need anyhow a warning message that ask user to save the
project (see point a, c and e)
2) extend the automatically generated warning  to the presence of
temporary raster layer and to save them (see point d)
3) possibly add to the warning messages a list of a) modified vector
layers, b) new vector layers, c) temporary raster layers (see point b and d)

Peppe
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Re: [JPP-Devel] OJ behaviour when it is closed without saving project file

2015-06-24 Thread edgar . soldin

On 24.06.2015 10:58, Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
 My conclusion:
 1) I think we need anyhow a warning message that ask user to save the project 
 (see point a, c and e)
 2) extend the automatically generated warning  to the presence of temporary 
 raster layer and to save them (see point d)
 3) possibly add to the warning messages a list of a) modified vector layers, 
 b) new vector layers, c) temporary raster layers (see point b and d)

sounds reasonable. you will probably need to add a Project (Task.java) changed 
flag handling analogue as it is implemented for layers.

..ede

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Re: [JPP-Devel] SVN: [4505] core/trunk

2015-06-24 Thread Giuseppe Aruta

This is an upgrade of OJ behaviour when it is closed before saving the
project file, *in italics my comments*:

a) Open OJ and *load a vector* layer. Than close OJ.
OJ shuts down with no warning to save the project.
*This is a bit ambiguous as an user wants maybe only to loads vectors with
no need do perform analysis. But only to have a project already set*. I*n
my opinion OJ should anyhow warns users if save the project*

b) Open OJ and *create a vector* file, Than close OJ.
There are two types of warning according to what happens:
- if the new layer is only created OJ warns that an automatically generated
layer is not saved
- if the new file is created and modified (ex. adding a feature), OJ warns
that one (or more) datasets has been modified.
*This is OK. We probably can extend both warning dialog adding a list of
the name of unsaved/modified layers*

c) Open OJ and l*oad a Sextante Raster* Layer. Than close OJ
See OJ behaviour and comments at point a)

d) Open OJ, load a Sextante Raster Layer, than *create a new Sextante
Raster* layer using Sextante Toolbox or other OJ tools. Than Close OJ.
OJ shuts down with no no warning to save the project.
*This is fatal for users who are not aware about it, as they can loose all
their work. We should add a warning message, like in point b) to add users
that 1d) new raster layers have been created, 2d) these layers are
temporary layers (they are saved into OS temp folder, users can lost them
if they shut down the computer)*

e) Open OJ and *load a WMS* Layer. Than close OJ
See OJ behaviour and comments at point a)


My conclusion:
1) I think we need anyhow a warning message that ask user to save the
project (see point a, c and e)
2) extend the warning message for the presence of temporary raster layer
and to save them (point d)
3) possibly add to this warning message a list of a) modified vector
layers, b) new vector layers, c) temporary raster layers (point b and d)

Peppe



2015-06-23 15:17 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Aruta giuseppe.ar...@gmail.com:

 Hi Michael,
  I saw you solved this behavior on WorkbenchFrame class.

 There 2 problems with Sextante Raster layers, I will try to describe.

 Some Sextante Raster plugins save a result file into OSTEMP folder (The
 plugins: extract selected part of image, warp image to fence, Affine
 transformation (from warping vectors) if the selected layer is a Sextante
 Raster).

 1) OJ doesn't warn that those new raster layers are not saved into the
 project. If a user closes the project without saving it at this stage,
 these layers are lost (*)

 2) Those new files are saved into TEMP folder. So, even if a user reminds
 to save the project (but leaves the files into TEMP folder)  the files are
 deleted, at least for Linux and, I think, for MacOSX, when he shuts down
 the PC.

 The old warning message was probably not correct but it was helping to
 remind user the presence of temporary raster layers.
 We need an extra warning message, when OJ is closing down, to warn a user
 a) that there are some temporary raster files and to save them to a save
 folder b) to save anyhow the project if he/she wants to save these files as
 project layers.

 Best regards

 Peppe

 (*) note that this happens also for raster files produced using any raster
 tool from Sextante toolbox.

 2015-06-23 13:42 GMT+02:00 jump-pilot-...@lists.sourceforge.net:

 Revision: 4505
   http://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/code/4505
 Author:   michaudm
 Date: 2015-06-23 11:42:46 + (Tue, 23 Jun 2015)
 Log Message:
 ---
 Fix bug #406 wrong message layers not saved

 Modified Paths:
 --
 core/trunk/ChangeLog

 core/trunk/src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/WorkbenchFrame.java

 Modified: core/trunk/ChangeLog
 ===
 --- core/trunk/ChangeLog2015-06-18 15:50:25 UTC (rev 4504)
 +++ core/trunk/ChangeLog2015-06-23 11:42:46 UTC (rev 4505)
 @@ -1,5 +1,8 @@
  # for display continuity sake please use 2 spaces instead of tabs

 +2015-06-23 mmichaud m.michael.mich...@orange.fr
 +  * fix bug #406 wrong message layers not saved
 +
  2015-06-17 bertazza
* added Raster Styler to manage symbologies for 1-banded raster
* (available from raster layer contextual menu)

 Modified:
 core/trunk/src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/WorkbenchFrame.java
 ===
 ---
 core/trunk/src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/WorkbenchFrame.java
  2015-06-18 15:50:25 UTC (rev 4504)
 +++
 core/trunk/src/com/vividsolutions/jump/workbench/ui/WorkbenchFrame.java
  2015-06-23 11:42:46 UTC (rev 4505)
 @@ -1321,7 +1321,7 @@
  ArrayList list = new ArrayList();
  for (Iterator i = getLayerManagers().iterator(); i.hasNext();) {
  LayerManager layerManager = (LayerManager) i.next();
 -list.add(layerManager.getLayersWithNullDataSource());
 +

[JPP-Devel] Proposal for Layer View contex menu

2015-06-24 Thread Giuseppe Aruta

Hi all,
I would like to modify the Layer View context menu introducing a submenu
called Tools where I want to move some of the plugins.
The idea is to make the core menu shorter and flexible by introducing
submenus for tools which are not used so frequently

The candidate plugins to move are within this list:

-Vertices in fence
-Replicate selected features
-Copy this coordinates
-Move along angle
-Rotate
-Edit selected side
-Reverse orientation

Before committing any changes I would like to have the opinion of the list

Best regards

Peppe
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Re: [JPP-Devel] OJ behaviour when it is closed without saving project file

2015-06-24 Thread sstein

thanks for the analysis, Peppe. The proposal sounds good to me, if you want to go ahead. Warning messages before closing something are never wrong. I think QGis does ask too, when closing a project.cheers,stefan-- Originalnachricht --Von:Giuseppe Aruta Datum:24.06.2015 4:58An:OpenJump develop and use;Betreff:[JPP-Devel] OJ behaviour when it is closed without saving project fileHi all,I already post this mail to [JUMP] lis SVN. I put here also for user who are not involved on developing just to explore other opinion.The test I did is on OpenJUMP 4508. This is a OJ behavior when it is closed before saving the project file,in italics my comments:a) Open OJ andload a vector layer. Than close OJ.OJ shuts down with no warning to save the project. This is a bit ambiguous as an user wants maybe only to loads vectors and save the project with no need do perform analysis . In my opinion OJ should anyhow warns users if save the projectb) Open OJ andcreate a vector file, Than close OJ.There are two types of warning according to what happens:- if the new layer is only created OJ warns that an automatically generated layer is not saved - (automatically generated warning)- if the new file is created and modified (ex. adding a feature), OJ warns that one (or more) datasets has been modified. - (modified warning)This is OK. We probably can extend both warning dialog adding a list of the name of unsaved/modified layersc) Open OJ and load a Sextante Raster Layer. Than close OJSee OJ behaviour and comments at point a)d) Open OJ, load a Sextante Raster Layer, thancreate a new Sextante Raster layer using Sextante Toolbox or other OJ tools. Than Close OJ (no vectors loaded/created).OJ shuts down with no no warning to save the project. This is fatal for users who are not aware about it, as they can loose all their work. We should add a warning message, like in point b) warning users that 1d) new raster layers have been created, 2d) these layers are temporary layers (they are saved into OS temp folder, users can lost them if they shut down the computer)e) Open OJ andload a WMS Layer. Than close OJSee OJ behaviour and comments at point a)My conclusion:1) I think we need anyhow a warning message that ask user to save the project (see point a, c and e)2) extend the automatically generated warning to the presence of temporary raster layer and to save them (see point d)3) possibly add to the warning messages a list of a) modified vector layers, b) new vector layers, c) temporary raster layers (see point b and d)Peppe
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Re: [JPP-Devel] OJ behaviour when it is closed without saving project file

2015-06-24 Thread sstein

Re: [JPP-Devel] Proposal for Layer View contex menu

2015-06-24 Thread Stefan Steiniger

sounds reasonable.
These are tools available when clicking on a feature to edit it - right?
Although navigating into submenus is sometimes tricky with a mouse.

stefan

Am 24.06.15 um 06:16 schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
 Hi all,
 I would like to modify the Layer View context menu introducing a submenu
 called Tools where I want to move some of the plugins.
 The idea is to make the core menu shorter and flexible by introducing
 submenus for tools which are not used so frequently

 The candidate plugins to move are within this list:

 -Vertices in fence
 -Replicate selected features
 -Copy this coordinates
 -Move along angle
 -Rotate
 -Edit selected side
 -Reverse orientation

 Before committing any changes I would like to have the opinion of the list

 Best regards

 Peppe




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Re: [JPP-Devel] Proposal for Layer View contex menu

2015-06-24 Thread Giuseppe Aruta

Yes Stefan, those are all tools available when clicking on a feature to
edit it.
Regarding MacOSX, I can see (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_menu)
that is is a bit different comparing to Win or Linux. How difficult can be
for a MacOSX user to have submenus on the selected feature context menu?
I am not a MacOSX user so my question is to investigate pro/cons regading
submenus

Peppe

2015-06-24 16:27 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch:

 sounds reasonable.
 These are tools available when clicking on a feature to edit it - right?
 Although navigating into submenus is sometimes tricky with a mouse.

 stefan

 Am 24.06.15 um 06:16 schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
  Hi all,
  I would like to modify the Layer View context menu introducing a submenu
  called Tools where I want to move some of the plugins.
  The idea is to make the core menu shorter and flexible by introducing
  submenus for tools which are not used so frequently
 
  The candidate plugins to move are within this list:
 
  -Vertices in fence
  -Replicate selected features
  -Copy this coordinates
  -Move along angle
  -Rotate
  -Edit selected side
  -Reverse orientation
 
  Before committing any changes I would like to have the opinion of the
 list
 
  Best regards
 
  Peppe
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Proposal for Layer View contex menu

2015-06-24 Thread edgar . soldin

not easier or more difficult than on any other os. as Stefan said, it is just a 
bit more tricky to stay on the context menu while navigating. but as it does 
not deactivate if you leave it's boundaries, like main menus do, that is not a 
big issue.

find attached how the popup menu looks on mac. ..ede



On 24.06.2015 15:42, Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
 Yes Stefan, those are all tools available when clicking on a feature to edit 
 it.
 Regarding MacOSX, I can see (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_menu) that 
 is is a bit different comparing to Win or Linux. How difficult can be for a 
 MacOSX user to have submenus on the selected feature context menu? I am not 
 a MacOSX user so my question is to investigate pro/cons regading submenus
 
 Peppe
 
 2015-06-24 16:27 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch 
 mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch:
 
 sounds reasonable.
 These are tools available when clicking on a feature to edit it - right?
 Although navigating into submenus is sometimes tricky with a mouse.
 
 stefan
 
 Am 24.06.15 um 06:16 schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
  Hi all,
  I would like to modify the Layer View context menu introducing a submenu
  called Tools where I want to move some of the plugins.
  The idea is to make the core menu shorter and flexible by introducing
  submenus for tools which are not used so frequently
 
  The candidate plugins to move are within this list:
 
  -Vertices in fence
  -Replicate selected features
  -Copy this coordinates
  -Move along angle
  -Rotate
  -Edit selected side
  -Reverse orientation
 
  Before committing any changes I would like to have the opinion of the 
 list
 
  Best regards
 
  Peppe
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [JPP-Devel] OJ behaviour when it is closed without saving project file

2015-06-24 Thread Michaël Michaud


Hi Peppe,

All your propositions makes sense to me,

Michaël

Le 24/06/2015 10:58, Giuseppe Aruta a écrit :

Hi all,
I already post this mail to [JUMP] lis SVN. I put here also for user 
who are not involved on developing just to explore other opinion.


The test I did is on OpenJUMP 4508. This is a OJ behavior when it is 
closed before saving the project file, /in italics my comments/:


a) Open OJ and _load a vector_ layer. Than close OJ.
OJ shuts down with no warning to save the project. /
This is a bit ambiguous as an user wants maybe only to loads vectors 
and save the project with no need do perform analysis ./ I/n my 
opinion OJ should anyhow warns users if save the project/


b) Open OJ and _create a vector_ file, Than close OJ.
There are two types of warning according to what happens:
- if the new layer is only created OJ warns that an automatically 
generated layer is not saved - (automatically generated warning)
- if the new file is created and modified (ex. adding a feature), OJ 
warns that one (or more) datasets has been modified. - (modified warning)
/This is OK. We probably can extend both warning dialog adding a list 
of the name of unsaved/modified layers/


c) Open OJ and l_oad a Sextante Raster_ Layer. Than close OJ
See OJ behaviour and comments at point a)

d) Open OJ, load a Sextante Raster Layer, than _create a new Sextante 
Raster_ layer using Sextante Toolbox or other OJ tools. Than Close OJ 
(no vectors loaded/created).

OJ shuts down with no no warning to save the project. /
/
/This is fatal for users who are not aware about it, as they can loose 
all their work. We should add a warning message, like in point b) 
warning users that 1d) new raster layers have been created, 2d) these 
layers are temporary layers (they are saved into OS temp folder, users 
can lost them if they shut down the computer)/


e) Open OJ and _load a WMS_ Layer. Than close OJ
See OJ behaviour and comments at point a)


My conclusion:
1) I think we need anyhow a warning message that ask user to save the 
project (see point a, c and e)
2) extend the automatically generated warning  to the presence of 
temporary raster layer and to save them (see point d)
3) possibly add to the warning messages a list of a) modified vector 
layers, b) new vector layers, c) temporary raster layers (see point b 
and d)


Peppe



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[JPP-Devel] Proposal for Layer View contex menu

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