Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-04-01 Thread Stefan Steiniger 

w someone made advertisement for OJ?

keep up the good work!

On 4/1/16 04:25, Michaël Michaud wrote:

Hi,

Thanks, I'm not sure it worthwhile, but I prefer to take the following 
graphic as an encouragement.
These figures are probably much distorted by automatic downloads, but 
it is the first time we
exceeded 4000 downloads a month, and the same month, we nearly reached 
5000 (stable

release only) :


Michaël

Le 31/03/2016 13:59, Giuseppe Aruta a écrit :

Yes! Landon is right! Thanks Michael for your job.

2016-03-30 23:00 GMT+02:00 Landon Blake >:


Thanks for your work cleaning the code Michael. I appreciate it.

Landon

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Edgar Soldin
 wrote:

On 24.03.2016 13 :55, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> Thanks,
> I also can undertake some changes with more confidence
because I know I
> can get excellent support on this list either in GIS area
or in java
> programming area ;-)

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-04-01 Thread Michaël Michaud 

Hi,

Thanks, I'm not sure it worthwhile, but I prefer to take the following 
graphic as an encouragement.
These figures are probably much distorted by automatic downloads, but it 
is the first time we
exceeded 4000 downloads a month, and the same month, we nearly reached 
5000 (stable

release only) :


Michaël

Le 31/03/2016 13:59, Giuseppe Aruta a écrit :

Yes! Landon is right! Thanks Michael for your job.

2016-03-30 23:00 GMT+02:00 Landon Blake >:


Thanks for your work cleaning the code Michael. I appreciate it.

Landon

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Edgar Soldin > wrote:

On 24.03.2016 13 :55, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> Thanks,
> I also can undertake some changes with more confidence
because I know I
> can get excellent support on this list either in GIS area or
in java
> programming area ;-)

noted :).. happy bunny days.. ede


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-03-31 Thread Giuseppe Aruta 
Yes! Landon is right! Thanks Michael for your job.

2016-03-30 23:00 GMT+02:00 Landon Blake :

> Thanks for your work cleaning the code Michael. I appreciate it.
>
> Landon
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Edgar Soldin  wrote:
>
>> On 24.03.2016 13:55, Michaël Michaud wrote:
>> > Thanks,
>> > I also can undertake some changes with more confidence because I know I
>> > can get excellent support on this list either in GIS area or in java
>> > programming area ;-)
>>
>> noted :).. happy bunny days.. ede
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-03-30 Thread Landon Blake 
Thanks for your work cleaning the code Michael. I appreciate it.

Landon

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Edgar Soldin  wrote:

> On 24.03.2016 13:55, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> > Thanks,
> > I also can undertake some changes with more confidence because I know I
> > can get excellent support on this list either in GIS area or in java
> > programming area ;-)
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-03-27 Thread Edgar Soldin 
On 24.03.2016 13:55, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> Thanks,
> I also can undertake some changes with more confidence because I know I
> can get excellent support on this list either in GIS area or in java
> programming area ;-)

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-03-24 Thread Michaël Michaud 

Hi,

>> Hi,
>>
>> I was not frightened at all,
> maybe you should be ;)
Yes of course I can introduce new bugs. The risk is quite low with the 
kind of changes I've done since 1.9.1, but I don't exclude to do deeper 
changes.
Hopefully, we have a good and stable 1.9.1 release, and it seems a good 
time for this kind of work.

>
>> just curious and also glad. Cleaning old code that is not really broken is 
>> something that usually remains undone.
> "never touch a running system"
I don't completely agree. If you just want to "use" the soft, you're 
right. If you want a living and evolving code base, I think that 
cleaning, refactoring is part of the process, it should not necessarily 
be driven by bug fixes.
>
>> Another example is developer "goatbar" who has been cleaning the codebase of 
>> GDAL with his +1400 changesets
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/search?q=goatbar=1=on
> not saying it shouldn't be done. just has to be done carefully and while 
> functionality does not increase it inherently has the danger of breaking 
> things.
I'll discuss on the list any change which may introduce a risk 
(according to my criteria).
>
>> I have also seen in the Geoserver project how much work it can require if 
>> there is a need to migrate over very many library versions like with Wicket 
>> 1.4 from 2009 -> Wicket 7.x 
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Code_Sprint_2016. Upgrading to 
>> Spring-4 is also a big task even it is not so much delayed 
>> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade.
> yeah, but at least upgrading dependencies usually gives you more stable, 
> better libs you work w/ in the future.
>
> anyway.. i have full confidence in the french/czech teamup Mike ..ede
Thanks,
I also can undertake some changes with more confidence because I know I 
can get excellent support on this list either in GIS area or in java 
programming area ;-)

Michaël
>
>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>
>> edgar.soldin wrote:
>>
>>> as far as i have seen the changes were more of a formatting natures so far. 
>>> but, Jukka is right of course, touching existing working code is prone to 
>>> introduce errors.
>>> that being said, i trust you'll be extra careful and try not to introduce 
>>> new code if not absolutely needed.
>> ..ede
>>
>> rOn 24.03.2016 00:01, Michaël Michaud wrote:
>>> Hi Jukka,
>>>
>>> Some benefits are :
>>> - making the code more readable (with for each loop, generics,
>>> autoboxing : formatting and using simpler syntax help to understand
>>> the code more quickly)
>>> - making the code more safe (using generics, try with resource)
>>> - most of things I rewrite are suggestions from my IDE (it may detect 
>>> actual bugs, but more often
>>>"potential" bug or simply bad practises )
>>> - removing dead code (useless bytes to load) or duplicated code (error
>>> prone)
>>> - for me, it is also a good way to have a better knowledge of the codebase.
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Benefit is not very high for the short term (it is not supposed to change 
>>> the way OJ works).
>>> But I hope it will make the code more attractive. I think it may also
>>> be a first step for bigger refactoring task if needed.
>>>
>>> Michaël
>>>
>>> Le 23/03/2016 22:49, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) a écrit :
 Hi,

   

 Michaël seems to do much work with "Cleaning, formatting rewriting". As a 
 non-programmer I would like to know what and why, and what benefit 
 OpenJUMP will have from this code review.

   

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-03-24 Thread edgar . soldin 
On 24.03.2016 11:38, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was not frightened at all, 

maybe you should be ;)

>just curious and also glad. Cleaning old code that is not really broken is 
>something that usually remains undone.  

"never touch a running system"

>Another example is developer "goatbar" who has been cleaning the codebase of 
>GDAL with his +1400 changesets
> https://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/search?q=goatbar=1=on

not saying it shouldn't be done. just has to be done carefully and while 
functionality does not increase it inherently has the danger of breaking things.

> I have also seen in the Geoserver project how much work it can require if 
> there is a need to migrate over very many library versions like with Wicket 
> 1.4 from 2009 -> Wicket 7.x 
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Code_Sprint_2016. Upgrading to Spring-4 
> is also a big task even it is not so much delayed 
> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade.

yeah, but at least upgrading dependencies usually gives you more stable, better 
libs you work w/ in the future.

anyway.. i have full confidence in the french/czech teamup Mike ..ede

> 
> -Jukka Rahkonen- 
> 
> edgar.soldin wrote:
> 
>> as far as i have seen the changes were more of a formatting natures so far. 
>> but, Jukka is right of course, touching existing working code is prone to 
>> introduce errors.
> 
>> that being said, i trust you'll be extra careful and try not to introduce 
>> new code if not absolutely needed.
> 
> ..ede
> 
> rOn 24.03.2016 00:01, Michaël Michaud wrote:
>> Hi Jukka,
>>
>> Some benefits are :
>> - making the code more readable (with for each loop, generics, 
>> autoboxing : formatting and using simpler syntax help to understand 
>> the code more quickly)
>> - making the code more safe (using generics, try with resource)
>> - most of things I rewrite are suggestions from my IDE (it may detect actual 
>> bugs, but more often
>>   "potential" bug or simply bad practises )
>> - removing dead code (useless bytes to load) or duplicated code (error 
>> prone)
>> - for me, it is also a good way to have a better knowledge of the codebase.
>> ...
>>
>> Benefit is not very high for the short term (it is not supposed to change 
>> the way OJ works).
>> But I hope it will make the code more attractive. I think it may also 
>> be a first step for bigger refactoring task if needed.
>>
>> Michaël
>>
>> Le 23/03/2016 22:49, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Michaël seems to do much work with "Cleaning, formatting rewriting". As a 
>>> non-programmer I would like to know what and why, and what benefit OpenJUMP 
>>> will have from this code review.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-03-24 Thread edgar . soldin 
as far as i have seen the changes were more of a formatting natures so far. 
but, Jukka is right of course, touching existing working code is prone to 
introduce errors.

that being said, i trust you'll be extra careful and try not to introduce new 
code if not absolutely needed.

..ede

rOn 24.03.2016 00:01, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> Hi Jukka,
> 
> Some benefits are :
> - making the code more readable (with for each loop, generics, autoboxing : 
> formatting and using simpler syntax help to understand the code more quickly)
> - making the code more safe (using generics, try with resource)
> - most of things I rewrite are suggestions from my IDE (it may detect actual 
> bugs, but more often
>   "potential" bug or simply bad practises )
> - removing dead code (useless bytes to load) or duplicated code (error prone)
> - for me, it is also a good way to have a better knowledge of the codebase.
> ...
> 
> Benefit is not very high for the short term (it is not supposed to change the 
> way OJ works).
> But I hope it will make the code more attractive. I think it may also be a 
> first step for bigger
> refactoring task if needed.
> 
> Michaël
> 
> Le 23/03/2016 22:49, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Michaël seems to do much work with “Cleaning, formatting rewriting”. As a 
>> non-programmer I would like to know what and why, and what benefit OpenJUMP 
>> will have from this code review.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>
>>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-03-23 Thread Michaël Michaud 

Hi Jukka,

Some benefits are :
- making the code more readable (with for each loop, generics, 
autoboxing : formatting and using simpler syntax help to understand the 
code more quickly)

- making the code more safe (using generics, try with resource)
- most of things I rewrite are suggestions from my IDE (it may detect 
actual bugs, but more often

  "potential" bug or simply bad practises )
- removing dead code (useless bytes to load) or duplicated code (error 
prone)

- for me, it is also a good way to have a better knowledge of the codebase.
...

Benefit is not very high for the short term (it is not supposed to 
change the way OJ works).
But I hope it will make the code more attractive. I think it may also be 
a first step for bigger

refactoring task if needed.

Michaël

Le 23/03/2016 22:49, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) a écrit :


Hi,

Michaël seems to do much work with “Cleaning, formatting rewriting”. 
As a non-programmer I would like to know what and why, and what 
benefit OpenJUMP will have from this code review.


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[JPP-Devel] Cleaning, formatting rewriting

2016-03-23 Thread Rahkonen Jukka (MML) 
Hi,

Michaël seems to do much work with "Cleaning, formatting rewriting". As a 
non-programmer I would like to know what and why, and what benefit OpenJUMP 
will have from this code review.

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