Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jan/20 08:49, Saku Ytti wrote: > > When we asked JNPR why Jericho instead of Paradise, as we see these > chips for the same market, JNPR told that main motivation was OAM > features which they lack in Paradise but need in metro. The OAM story came up as well, as being the major

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 22:52, Mark Tinka wrote: > If I'm honest, what I've noticed with most traditional vendors selling > Broadcom-based boxes is they are touting "price" as the killer use-case When we asked JNPR why Jericho instead of Paradise, as we see these chips for the same market, JNPR

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/Jan/20 23:17, quinn snyder wrote: > That would be something like the NCS540. > Its not an apples-to-apples comparison — as the 540 runs XR and the usual > things that come with that. There were some threads about it in [c-nsp] — > might be something to explore. I feel its a bit

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/Jan/20 23:02, Colton Conor wrote: > What is Cisco's upgrade path from the ASR920 if you need more 10G ports? NCS540, which for me, is a broken path. We are pushing for other considerations, but I'm not holding my breath. Mark. ___ juniper-nsp

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread adamv0025
> From: Mark Tinka > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 9:21 AM > > On 23/Jan/20 10:55, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > > > But it's gonna be your only choice if you want to do any sensible > > automation (or Junos). > > Over the past 10 years of hearing about all the buzz words, it's very

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread quinn snyder
That would be something like the NCS540. Its not an apples-to-apples comparison — as the 540 runs XR and the usual things that come with that. There were some threads about it in [c-nsp] — might be something to explore. I feel its a bit heavyweight for the metro, but it gives you

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Colton Conor
What is Cisco's upgrade path from the ASR920 if you need more 10G ports? On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 2:52 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 23/Jan/20 16:00, Shamen Snyder wrote: > > > I have been following the ACX 710 for a while now. We have a use case > > in rural markets where we need a dense 10G

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/Jan/20 16:00, Shamen Snyder wrote: > I have been following the ACX 710 for a while now. We have a use case > in rural markets where we need a dense 10G hardened 1 RU box. > > Looks like a promising box, hope the price is right. If not we may > have to jump to Cisco ASR920s If I'm

Re: [j-nsp] Long communities (for 4-byte ASN) and static routes

2020-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Adams said: > We have some route policy applied based on communities set directly on > static routes. That works fine for us (with a 2-byte ASN), but doesn't > appear to accept 4-byte ASN long communities. I just get an error about > an invalid community. > > Am I

[j-nsp] Long communities (for 4-byte ASN) and static routes

2020-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
We have some route policy applied based on communities set directly on static routes. That works fine for us (with a 2-byte ASN), but doesn't appear to accept 4-byte ASN long communities. I just get an error about an invalid community. Am I missing something, or does JUNOS not support this? --

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Shamen Snyder
I have been following the ACX 710 for a while now. We have a use case in rural markets where we need a dense 10G hardened 1 RU box. Looks like a promising box, hope the price is right. If not we may have to jump to Cisco ASR920s 4 100/40G (can be channelized to 4x25G or 4x10G) interfaces, 24

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Thomas Scott
I had that conversation the again other day - someone said they were working on "automation" and when I probed deeper it revealed some (very useful, albeit not scalable) scripting. 'You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means' seems to be the gist of most "automation"

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/Jan/20 10:55, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > But it's gonna be your only choice if you want to do any sensible automation > (or Junos). Over the past 10 years of hearing about all the buzz words, it's very safe to say that "automation" is whatever it means to you :-). Mark.

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread adamv0025
> Mark Tinka > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 6:46 PM > > On 22/Jan/20 20:39, Tim Durack wrote: > > > If you can stomach the BU wars, UADP is a nice ASIC - I think the > > Cat9k has legs, but the Enterprise BU is definitely in a parallel > > universe. I asked about porting XR to run on UADP.

Re: [j-nsp] ACX5448 & ACX710

2020-01-23 Thread adamv0025
> Mark Tinka > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 7:01 AM > > This is one of the reasons operators with enough in-house coding skill are > seriously looking to build (or already building) their own routers with DPDK > on white boxes + friends, even if those solutions may be proprietary and > used