Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-04 Thread Alexandre Snarskii via juniper-nsp
0 0:50:56:b3:4f:fe ucst 1420 3 ae17.3347 > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Alexandre Snarskii > > Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2024 12:20 PM > > To: Michael Hare > > Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem D

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-04 Thread Michael Hare via juniper-nsp
p Type IndexNhRef Netif A.B.C.D/32 user 0 0:50:56:b3:4f:fe ucst 1420 3 ae17.3347 > -Original Message- > From: Alexandre Snarskii > Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2024 12:20 PM > To: Michael Hare > Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [j-nsp]

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp
On 4/3/24 18:06, Tom Beecher wrote: My first thought was also to use BGP-LU. Would a virtual router with an lt- interface connecting the VRF to the global table be too expensive? Mark. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Tom Beecher via juniper-nsp
> > but a BGP-LU solution exists even for this problem. > My first thought was also to use BGP-LU. On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 2:58 AM Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp < juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 at 09:45, Saku Ytti wrote: > > > Actually I think I'm confused. I think it will

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
nsp > > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 1:58 AM > > To: Mark Tinka > > Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture > > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 at 09:45, Saku Ytti wrote: > > > > > Actua

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Michael Hare via juniper-nsp
.net > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 at 09:45, Saku Ytti wrote: > > > Actually I think I'm confused. I think it will just work. Because even > > as the EgressPE does IP lookup due to table-label, the IP loo

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 at 09:45, Saku Ytti wrote: > Actually I think I'm confused. I think it will just work. Because even > as the EgressPE does IP lookup due to table-label, the IP lookup still > points to egressMAC, instead looping back, because it's doing it in > the CleanVRF. > So I think it

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp
On 4/3/24 08:45, Saku Ytti wrote: Actually I think I'm confused. I think it will just work. Because even as the EgressPE does IP lookup due to table-label, the IP lookup still points to egressMAC, instead looping back, because it's doing it in the CleanVRF. So I think it just works. So OP

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 at 09:37, Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp wrote: > At old job, we managed to do this with a virtual-router VRF that carried > traffic between the scrubbing PE and the egress PE via MPLS, to avoid > the IP loop. Actually I think I'm confused. I think it will just work. Because even

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp
On 4/3/24 08:07, Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp wrote: If I understand you correctly, the problem is not that you can't copy direct into CleanVRF, the problem is that ScrubberPE that does clean lookup in in CleanVRF, has label stack of [EgressPE TableLabel], instead of [EgressPE EgressCE], this

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-03 Thread Saku Ytti via juniper-nsp
On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 18:25, Michael Hare via juniper-nsp wrote: > We're a US research and education ISP and we've been tasked for coming up > with an architecture to allow on premise DDoS scrubbing with an appliance. > As a first pass I've created an cleanL3VPN routing-instance to function

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-02 Thread Alexandre Snarskii via juniper-nsp
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 07:43:01PM +0300, Alexandre Snarskii via juniper-nsp wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 03:25:21PM +, Michael Hare via juniper-nsp wrote: > > Hi! > > Workaround that we're using (not elegant, but working): setup a > "self-pointing" routes to directly connected

Re: [j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-02 Thread Alexandre Snarskii via juniper-nsp
On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 03:25:21PM +, Michael Hare via juniper-nsp wrote: Hi! Workaround that we're using (not elegant, but working): setup a "self-pointing" routes to directly connected destinations: set routing-options static route A.B.C.D/32 next-hop A.B.C.D and export these to

[j-nsp] L3VPNs and on-prem DDoS scrubbing architecture

2024-04-02 Thread Michael Hare via juniper-nsp
Hi there, We're a US research and education ISP and we've been tasked for coming up with an architecture to allow on premise DDoS scrubbing with an appliance. As a first pass I've created an cleanL3VPN routing-instance to function as a clean VRF that uses rib-groups to mirror the relevant