Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-16 Thread Tim Durack
I have to wonder if vendors are subsidizing line cards with GBIC/SFP sales. Once one vendor does it, everybody else has to follow to stay competitive. Either that or it such a huge cash-cow they wont let it go. I guess the compatible design of GBIC/SFPs benefits the vendor not the end-user, as

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-16 Thread Jonas Frey
I know of a dozen vendors in taiwan/china that will ask you which eeprom code you want on your SFP if you order there. They do have almost any code available, be it HP or Cisco or whatever. The SFPs will be correctly detected by the device and work just like a original. (However the SFPs do have

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-15 Thread bill fumerola
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 05:38:47PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: I heard some grumbling that HP implemented vendor locking on their switches out of the blue with no notice and significant downtime caused to users who tried to upgrade code. this is true. as i recall, the

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Civati
Kevin Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We escalated this as high as they'd let us. The reply from high up was that they were sorry for the inconvenience, but there is no workaround, and that it's for our own protection. I think this was brought about because they provide a lot of free lifetime

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-15 Thread David Ball
I was speaking with someone from Foundry just this afternoon and asked this very question. They indicated that they had considered doing this some time ago (forcing the use of Foundry SFPs), but first polled some of their customer base for a reaction. Not surprisingly, it was overwhelmingly

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-11 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
PROTECTED] Sent: 01/11/2008 01:52 PM GMT To: Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Eric Van Tol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility I had no issues using other vendors SFP in a NIT environment and concur that the only symptom of using a non

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-11 Thread Evan Williams
- From: Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Van Tol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 04:46:13PM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote: Hi all, Is anyone using

[j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-10 Thread Eric Van Tol
Hi all, Is anyone using Transition Networks' SFPs in their Junipers? If so, have you had any problems with them? I'm looking at possibly using the TN-SFP-LX12 (http://www.transition.com/TransitionNetworks/Products2/Product.aspx?ID= 26601CategoryName=tnsfp) and I'd like to know if it works. I'm

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-10 Thread Shane Ronan
I have used Transition Networks SFPs in the past in my Junipers, specifically TN-GLC-LH-SM, and they work very well. On Jan 10, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Eric Van Tol wrote: Hi all, Is anyone using Transition Networks' SFPs in their Junipers? If so, have you had any problems with them? I'm

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-10 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 04:46:13PM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote: Hi all, Is anyone using Transition Networks' SFPs in their Junipers? If so, have you had any problems with them? I'm looking at possibly using the TN-SFP-LX12

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-10 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 05:03:40PM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote: Yeah, I'm just wondering when this will end. I've spoken with a few different vendors about their plans for optics and they all say that we don't lock you out *now*. I'm thoroughly unimpressed with this answer, as it could lead to

Re: [j-nsp] SFP Compatibility

2008-01-10 Thread Tim Durack
On Jan 10, 2008 5:38 PM, Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 05:03:40PM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote: Yeah, I'm just wondering when this will end. I've spoken with a few different vendors about their plans for optics and they all say that we don't lock you