Re: [j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-20 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 08:16:11PM +0300, Antti Ristimäki wrote: > This was AOC specific issue and in fact we have more or less abandoned AOC > cables, but nevertheless 100G seems to be much more difficult to interop than > previous speed generations. Since you actually used Juniper AOCs -

Re: [j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-20 Thread Antti Ristimäki
+1 We've had some serious issues with Juniper AOC cables between QFX and MX. It worked with the factory-installed version 15.1X, but then after upgrading QFX to >=17 train caused the AOC work only between two QFX switches, but not between QFX and MX, regardless of FEC etc. configuration. Then

Re: [j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-20 Thread Eric Krichbaum
DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110 Don't think it's just you. We've had tons of issues with QSFP28 optics across all sorts of hardware. -- Tim On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 8:38 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > Is it just me or does 100GE have lot more interop issues than we had > with 1GE an

Re: [j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-20 Thread Tim Jackson
Don't think it's just you. We've had tons of issues with QSFP28 optics across all sorts of hardware. -- Tim On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 8:38 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > Is it just me or does 100GE have lot more interop issues than we had > with 1GE and 10GE? > > Vendor rep explained it as MSA being too

Re: [j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-20 Thread Saku Ytti
Is it just me or does 100GE have lot more interop issues than we had with 1GE and 10GE? Vendor rep explained it as MSA being too ambiguous so both can do everything right and still not interop, unsure if defensive or factual. On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 16:34, Tim Jackson wrote: > > We've actually

Re: [j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-20 Thread Tim Jackson
We've actually had the reverse issue where 17.4 is the only release that some DACs will function. Any 18.x release seems to break them. These aren't Juniper coded DACs, but just generic coded: https://paste.somuch.fail/?248d62d55916f17b#+flZp6LEb0ZY48AI/3rc4YidWw6LENIQTPxpc4O6j7g= -- Tim On

Re: [j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-20 Thread Chris Wopat
We have tested flexoptix 3rd party DAC between MX204 and QFX5120/QFX10002 with mixed results. Per release notes/ HCL, DAC isn't supported on MX204 until 18.2 https://apps.juniper.net/hct/product/#prd=MX204 We couldn't link anything with mx204 dac on anything below 18.2. There are also a few DAC

Re: [j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-19 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Have a look at PR1352409. > On Jun 19, 2019, at 5:03 PM, Eric Krichbaum wrote: > > Has anyone gotten the Fiberstore 100G DAC to link up between a QFX and an MX? > I got link between 2 MX using it without any issue but haven't had any luck > to the QFX. > > They detect ok: > >Xcvr 48

[j-nsp] 100G DAC issue between MX204 and QFX5110

2019-06-19 Thread Eric Krichbaum
Has anyone gotten the Fiberstore 100G DAC to link up between a QFX and an MX? I got link between 2 MX using it without any issue but haven't had any luck to the QFX. They detect ok: Xcvr 48 REV 01 740-061001 C1905258091 QSFP28-100G-CU1M Xcvr 49 REV 01 740-061001