Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-08 Thread Brendan J Simon
Peter Samuelson wrote: >The way 'make' determines when a file needs to be rebuilt is by the >simple heuristic "is this file older than any of its dependencies?" >This works fine if you can trust your timestamps to increase >monotonically. Seems obvious - but there are in fact at least four >scen

Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-07 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:30:18PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > I hear ya. Remember the 2.1.1xx days? Linus looked at the relatively > mature "uusb" project and basically said "Wow, what a load of crap, the > usb spec isn't *nearly* this complex." Then he spent a weekend hacking > up an e

Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Brendan J Simon] > Thanks for that information. Looks like Kai's work will/may > eventually do what I want but when will it be mainstream, that is the > question. If by "mainstream" you mean "in 2.4", probably never. There is just no motivation to backport it, and I doubt Marcelo would accept

Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-07 Thread Brendan J Simon
Peter Samuelson wrote: >Well, there's http://www.??.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.5/ChangLog-*, >search for "kai@". He seems to have started in 2.5.7. > >Off the top of my head, the main kbuild2.5 features 2.5.40 *doesn't* >have would be: > >* separate source and object trees - but see below >

Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Brendan J Simon] > Is there a site that documents the changes the Kai has made or is > making ? Well, there's http://www.??.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.5/ChangLog-*, search for "kai@". He seems to have started in 2.5.7. Off the top of my head, the main kbuild2.5 features 2.5.40 *doesn't* h

Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-06 Thread Brendan J Simon
Peter Samuelson wrote: >[Brendan J Simon] > > >>What is the status of kbuild with respect to getting into the kernel >>proper ? >>Is it going to get into the linus kernel source tree ?? >> >> >At this point it doesn't seem likely. Of the rich feature set Keith >produced, Kai Germaschewski

Re: [kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-06 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Brendan J Simon] > What is the status of kbuild with respect to getting into the kernel > proper ? > Is it going to get into the linus kernel source tree ?? At this point it doesn't seem likely. Of the rich feature set Keith produced, Kai Germaschewski has managed to replicate the most compel

[kbuild-devel] kbuild status

2002-10-06 Thread Brendan J Simon
Hi kbuild team, What is the status of kbuild with respect to getting into the kernel proper ? Is it going to get into the linus kernel source tree ?? The reason I ask is that I require a kernel build system for the 2.4 kernel on a embedded PowerPC architecture. It seems that only the i386 i