[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >From AFW FAQ: > > Q11. What is the McQuary limit? > A11. "There once was a man from Nantucket, > who lost his .sig in a bucket. > Five lines was too long, > columns 80 just strong, > so he didn't know where to tuck it." > A11. The limit o

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >I tried whitespace, but the default Tkinter font isn't fixed-width. How > >do you do invisible text? > > Text colour = background colour -> invisible Well, duh. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have occured to the dozen or so people who suggested thi

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread John Cowan
Eric S. Raymond scripsit: > I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about > 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my sig > until about 1996, well after the "standard" was effectively dead. I have always obeyed it. -- John Cowan

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about > 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my > sig until about 1996, well after the "standard" was effectively dead. RFC 1855 is dated October 1995. - If you include a signa

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread David Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Maybe I just didn't read the right standards manual when I started > using the internet. Then read it now. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- dwmw2 ___ kbuild-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourcef

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We hang in different parts of USENET I don't hang in Usenet at all, any more. Gave up on it about '98. -- http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/";>Eric S. Raymond You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Alexander Viro
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about > 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my sig > until about 1996, well after the "standard" was effectively dead. We hang in different parts of USENET

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread volodya
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >I tried whitespace, but the default Tkinter font isn't fixed-width. How > > >do you do invisible text? > > > > Text colour = background colour -> invisible > > Well, duh. Unfortunately, it doesn't see

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread John Stoffel
Eric> John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Which is a real PITA because now I have to edit my .config file to >> have: >> >> CONFIG_RTC=y Eric> The correct fix for this PITA is for Linus not to ship a broken Eric> defconfig. While I can sympathize with this comment, I still feel that CML2 need

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread nick
I think ppl are recommending you BZ2 all your sigs.. Nick On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >From AFW FAQ: > > > > Q11. What is the McQuary limit? > > A11. "There once was a man from Nantucket, > > who lost his .sig in a bucke

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Alexander Viro
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Eric, it's getting tiresome. Kindly learn what the fsck McQ is, OK? > > Just out of curiousity - what is McQ ? > > Vladimir Dergachev > > PS And no, I am very sure there is no such thing in Star Trek. McQ:

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread volodya
> > Eric, it's getting tiresome. Kindly learn what the fsck McQ is, OK? Just out of curiousity - what is McQ ? Vladimir Dergachev PS And no, I am very sure there is no such thing in Star Trek. > > /me abstains from attaching Kibo's .sig - 1Mb of PDF is unfortu

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
At 09:03 30/04/2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >I tried whitespace, but the default Tkinter font isn't fixed-width. How > > >do you do invisible text? > > > > Text colour = background colour -> invisible > >Well, duh. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to ha

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread David Emory Watson
Oh. Well in hindsight, I guess your are right. After all I wouldn't want to be a luser, much less associated with AOL. Gosh I never realized. Maybe I just didn't read the right standards manual when I started using the internet. Where did you learn all of this? No, nevermind I don't care.

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
At 02:41 30/04/2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I don't know about whether this is possible with Tcl but have you tried A) > > invisible text and/or B) white space character text (e.g. one or more > > spaces)? That's the kind of thing I usually try in this

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Eric S. Raymond
John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It should then highlight *all* of the potential problem config > setting(s) and let the user deal. But they should never be forced to > hand edit their config file because a dependency is broken somewhere. > CML2 should enforce the *writing* of compliant files,

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Eric S. Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think ppl are recommending you BZ2 all your sigs.. Yes, I got that. Except for the people saying they like them as-is. In the absence of a clear consensus on the matter, I'm going to do as I please. Especially since I have a strong suspicion that

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Gerhard Mack
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I think ppl are recommending you BZ2 all your sigs.. > > Yes, I got that. Except for the people saying they like them as-is. > > In the absence of a clear consensus on the matter, I'm going to do > as

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Peter Samuelson
[esr] > Besides, right now the configurator has a simple invariant. It will > only accept consistent configurations So you are saying that the old 'vi .config; make oldconfig' trick is officially unsupported? That's too bad, it was quite handy. Peter _

[kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [esr] > > Besides, right now the configurator has a simple invariant. It will > > only accept consistent configurations > > So you are saying that the old 'vi .config; make oldconfig' trick is > officially unsupported? That's too bad, it was quite handy.

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-30 Thread nick
I'm fairly sure if he attached the BZ2'd sigs (exact same sigs, just bz2'd and tacked on like they are currently) would offend at least three camps, and have the benifit of showing up many broken mailers, filters, and various other mail related items. Nick On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Gerhard Mac

Re: [kbuild-devel] [PATCH] automatic multi-part link rules (fwd)

2001-04-30 Thread Keith Owens
On Tue, 1 May 2001 00:43:42 +0200 (CEST), Kai Germaschewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I sent this to the kbuild list about a week ago, and I received exactly >zero replies, so I'm posting to l-k now. This may mean that the idea is >totally stupid (but I'd like to know) or unquestionably good (t

[kbuild-devel] [PATCH] automatic multi-part link rules (fwd)

2001-04-30 Thread Kai Germaschewski
I sent this to the kbuild list about a week ago, and I received exactly zero replies, so I'm posting to l-k now. This may mean that the idea is totally stupid (but I'd like to know) or unquestionably good (that's what I'd prefer :), well, maybe I'll get some feedback this time. SHORT VERSION: T

Re: [kbuild-devel] [PATCH] automatic multi-part link rules (fwd)

2001-04-30 Thread Keith Owens
On Tue, 1 May 2001 01:31:20 +0200, "J . A . Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 05.01 Keith Owens wrote: >> The patch appears to work but is it worth applying now? The existing >> 2.4 rules work fine and the entire kbuild system will be rewritten for >> 2.5 > >We will have to live with 2.4

Re: [kbuild-devel] [PATCH] automatic multi-part link rules (fwd)

2001-04-30 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 05.01 Keith Owens wrote: > > The patch appears to work but is it worth applying now? The existing > 2.4 rules work fine and the entire kbuild system will be rewritten for > 2.5, including the case you identified here. It struck me as a decent > change but for no benefit and, given that the