Sam Ravnborg wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:42:53PM +1000, Greg Banks wrote:
[...] kbuild-2.5 does not replace something simple with
something complex, instead it replaces something complex and broken with
something of greater complexity and not broken. [...]
About current kbuild
G'day,
I'll just briefly unlurk on the subject of kbuild before getting back
to the kconfig bughunt.
Sam Ravnborg wrote:
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 08:49:34AM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
[...]
There is absolutely no requirement that all kernel developers uses
the same SCM system.
Agreed.
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:06:39 +1000,
Greg Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with Keith, shadow trees rock. I think they are probably the single
most useful feature of kbuild 2.5. I fervently hope we end up with shadow
trees or something like them by the end of Linux 2.5.
Greg covered
[CCs trimmed]
[Sam Ravnborg]
Obviously the kernel build system should work for everyone irrespective
of the SCM system in use. This put at least the following demands:
1) Separate OBJ and SRC tree
2) That kbuild does not touch any files in the SRC tree
Agreed. It looks
[Greg Banks]
I think the problem of Makefile bits in shadow trees is really quite
difficult. Keith's solution of pre-processing Makefiles and
Makefile.appends from all the shadow trees into a combined Makefile
doesn't handle all the cases but is the best attempt I've seen so
far.
Agreed..
Sam Ravnborg wrote:
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:36:11AM +1000, Greg Banks wrote:
I think the problem of Makefile bits in shadow trees is really
quite difficult. Keith's solution of pre-processing Makefiles and
Makefile.appends from all the shadow trees into a combined Makefile
doesn't
[Sam Ravnborg]
This does not stop any attemp to make a simple wrapper that
creates and maintain a BUILD_TREE.
To check timestamps and link accordinly should not take too much
time, at least not at the second run.
[Greg Banks]
Ok, why don't you and Peter Samuelson get together, create
[I wrote]
(cd $s; find * -type d) | xargs mkdir -p;
(cd $s;
exec find * \( -type d -exec mkdir \{} \; \) -o \
\( -type f ! -name \*.prepend ! -name \*.append -print \) ) |
while read f; do
This is redundant - the second mkdir is not needed.
Should be:
(cd $s; exec find *
Keith,
thanks for your previous reply.
( Re: kbuild2.5 does not actually install vmlinux for debugging as claimed )
Here are some more questions/observations on using kbuild : I hope
this kind of feedback is useful.
1) what version of make ? Makefile-2.5 suggests I need at least 3.79.1
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:41:28AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
Why do you see so much added value in kbuild support for shadow trees
compared to what a proper SCM tool give you?
For my (linux on s390) purpose, shadow trees are the most important
feature of kb25, because they allow us to
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:14:58 +0200,
Sam Ravnborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 11:54:29PM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
Linus and Kai do not think that shadow trees are useful. I have given
up explaining why they are useful. Now I am waiting until Kai hits a
dead end using
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