Re: Black screen after KDE 5 logo (with log)

2016-12-14 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Tuesday December 13 2016 21:50:32 Duncan wrote: >The trouble with kde/plasma logs is that they log all kinds of useless >but alarming looking "noise", at least in terms of user diagnostics >(individual component devs could arguably get something from it, but >apparently tend to ignore it as

Re: quickgit.kde.org?

2016-11-17 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday November 17 2016 02:49:30 Sérgio Basto wrote: >I can verify that >https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=colord-kde.git now is in >https://cgit.kde.org/colord-kde.git/ Indeed, I also found my own scratch project's "homepage", whew. > >but quickgit.kde.org could do a better redirect like Well,

quickgit.kde.org?

2016-11-16 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, What's happening with quickgit.kde.org? It is forwarding me to cgit.kde.org which currently only serves invalid request replies. R.

Re: pass lid close event from guest to host

2016-09-22 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday September 21 2016 23:14:24 Matei David wrote: >responsible for locking the host screen (dbus??) doesn't react to that >event. The fact that I see the acpi event on the host leads me to >believe this is not a VirtualBox problem. I'm tempted to think that it *is* a VirtualBox issue: in

Making the system dbus aware of a "parallel KF5 prefix"

2016-09-16 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, I've been building and installing Qt5 and select KF5 applications to /opt/local for use "under" my trusty (sic) old KDE4 desktop. I build with full rpaths so I don't have to fool around with LD_LIBRARY_PATH or ldconfig. My session dbus daemon is perfectly happy to expose the services from /

Re: Qt 5.6LTS vs 5.7+

2016-09-04 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Sunday September 04 2016 02:50:55 Duncan wrote: >I meant more or less what they've done with qtquick(1), where it was >deprecated and made optional in favor of the newer versions of the API in >qtdeclarative. The older module can still be built to support things You mean they could drop Qt

Re: Qt 5.6LTS vs 5.7+

2016-09-03 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Saturday September 03 2016 21:06:17 Duncan wrote: > Given the newness of that code in qt as well, I'd guess the wayland > support, directly or indirectly, is a big part of why they're requiring > qt-5.7 for various plasma components. Seems like it would have been more elegant to couple requ

Re: Qt 5.6LTS vs 5.7+

2016-09-03 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Saturday September 03 2016 18:02:42 Duncan wrote: Thanks Duncan, >Some plasma components in particular already have had commits bumping to >qt-5.7 minimum. In some cases they were reverted, but I don't believe >all of them have been. That's more or less what I was a bit afraid of. I do ha

Qt 5.6LTS vs 5.7+

2016-09-03 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, A bit of a generic development question, I hope this is at least as appropriate a place to ask as the frameworks-devel ML: Are there any plans or guidelines for requiring features from Qt 5.7 or later before the 5.6LTS EOL? In other words, does the fact that Qt 5.6 is supposed to be a LTS

partly missing rpath information when building digikam5 for a parallel prefix

2016-08-21 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, I've been building Qt5 and KF5 for installation into a parallel prefix (/opt/local) that's not declared to ldconfig. I've had to figure out how to build Qt and configure KF5 applications such that full rpath information is stored, but that was neither very difficult nor did it require any p

Re: KDE Source Code

2016-08-20 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Friday August 19 2016 22:00:07 Alec O wrote: Oh, those 1.1.x versions :) I'm still kind of hoping to get my hands on (and be able to build) OpenOffice 1.1.2 one day. I was lean (relatively..) and mean and did what I needed, but the build I still have no longer runs on my current hardware. >

unexpected "show desktop" shortcut (KDE4)

2016-08-06 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, I hit an accidental and as yet unidentified shortcut and am now seeing a "Show Desktop" entry in the task switcher. I'm 95% sure I deactivated the "Show Desktop Icon" option in the task switcher settings. Is there a shortcut to activate this option? To give an idea what keys I may have hi

Re: [kde] Appearance of the control bar

2016-08-03 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday August 03 2016 12:17:32 ianseeks wrote: >Have you tried Systemssettings/Appearance/Font/Toolbar Also, check if you shouldn't change the font DPI setting from the default to a value more appropriate to your monitor's real DPI (which can also mean setting it to a *lower* value!) R. _

Re: [kde] Build kdm in KDE 5 environment

2016-07-29 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Friday July 29 2016 09:39:31 Christoph Pleger wrote: >CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/KDE4Macros.cmake:944 >(add_test): > add_test given test NAME "ksysguard-signalplottertest" which already exists > in this directory. >Call Stack (most recent call first): > libs/ksysguard/

Re: [kde] does a gtk kcmshell5 module exist?

2016-07-29 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday July 28 2016 02:52:53 Felix Miata wrote: >https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2016-July/msg00028.html is the >actual screenshot in the context for which created, a show of gtk3 regression >high DPI KDE users of Mozilla products are likely to be seeing soon, if they >aren'

Re: [kde] Build kdm in KDE 5 environment

2016-07-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday July 27 2016 13:14:03 Christoph Pleger wrote: Hi, It might be more efficient to post the terminal output from CMake. The easiest way to build only KDM would be - run cmake on the toplevel CMakeLists.txt - chdir into the kdm's build dir (e.g. kde-workspace/build/kdm) and call make.

Re: [kde] Mounting storage media via plasma applet: no permission

2016-07-21 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday July 20 2016 23:19:14 Duncan wrote: >So the degree to which I can be of help is rather limited. However, the >problem reads to me like a missing polkit invocation in the failing >path. I'd dig around to find the commandline used in both paths, and To me this sounds more like a t

Re: [kde] "autistic" Konsole

2016-07-12 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Tuesday July 12 2016 09:00:38 Duncan wrote: >So opening a new window via the menu gives you a similarly afflicted >window. But that doesn't mention how you're opening a new konsole window >that you believe is in a new process, that's free of the problem. True. By launching konsole with the

Re: [kde] "autistic" Konsole

2016-07-12 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Tuesday July 12 2016 06:16:30 Duncan wrote: Ctrl-S stops terminal output but doesn't cut keyboard input, but yeah, I did try Ctrl-Q just in case. >So I must ask if you're sure you're opening a new konsole /process/, or >just a new thread on the same process. About as sure as I can be withou

[kde] "autistic" Konsole

2016-07-11 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, Not to hurt anyone's feelings, but I'm running into cases where Konsole behaves in a way where I can only communicate with it in indirect way. In fact, it's as if keyboard input is ignored, but output from running processes still comes through. The menus work, and I can use the paste command

Re: [kde] Change background

2016-07-07 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday July 06 2016 14:03:18 Christoph Pleger wrote: >in KDE 5, is it possible to change the background image which is shown >during the login animation This used to be trivial with kdm, which in its traditional, unthemed version also looked much better than (fugly, fugly) sddm. But it se

Re: [kde] Bug reporting : need pointer

2016-06-29 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday June 29 2016 13:56:49 Loïc Grobol wrote: > promptly installed plasma-wayland and am currently testing it. My > problem is : where to report the bugs I find ? I expect it should be > in Phabricator, but I am not familiar with it yet. The primary place for reporting bugs is bugs.kde.or

[kde] "suspend to disk" entry in "Leave" launcher menu

2016-06-08 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, How does one control the presence/absence of the "suspend to disk" entry in launcher Leave menus, like the one in Lancelot? The feature is off in /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla but I have 1 install in which according to my KDE desktop it should be avail

Re: [kde] controlling location of trash on per-filesystem basis?

2016-05-13 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Friday May 13 2016 09:31:26 D. R. Evans wrote: > I think I lived in hope that there were still enough old-style *NIX people ? I must be a real dinosaur then, because to me "old-style *NIX" means no trash or file explorer at all, just ls and rm . That's what I do most of the time, and I don't

Re: [kde] controlling location of trash on per-filesystem basis?

2016-05-13 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Friday May 13 2016 05:04:42 Duncan wrote: >Note that we're not necessarily talking / itself here, but for instance Right. Of course. Guilty as charged myself too (though in my case that's on OS X where this kind of device is usually mounted without support for ownership, which avoids the wh

Re: [kde] controlling location of trash on per-filesystem basis?

2016-05-12 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 12 2016 07:55:18 D. R. Evans wrote: Giving mere users write-access to the root seems a bad idea to me, but well, YMMV ... > >(Indeed, there must be a way to say "don't use Trash at all on filesystem >", but I can't find a way to do that either.) You could try creating a write (a

Re: [kde] Mapping physical screens to KDE containments

2016-04-11 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Monday April 11 2016 10:01:36 Duncan wrote: >Oh well... On the bright side, it'll probably be fixed in a few years... >just in time for them to dump it and start on the all new and buggy kde/ >plasma6! [OT] That's exactly one of the reasons I'm still holding on to KUbuntu 14.04 with custom P

Re: [kde] Mapping physical screens to KDE containments

2016-04-11 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Monday April 11 2016 12:42:29 Nick Coghlan wrote: Hi, >Using a multi-monitor setup under Plasma 5 (Fedora 23), I have a >problem where the configured panel applet will disappear and not come >back if an external monitor is reconfigured to clone the laptop >monitor, and then switched back to be

[kde] official guidelines on the install location of cmake modules?

2016-04-11 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, This is a bit of a developer's question, so apologies if I'm posting on the wrong list. Is there any official set of guidelines/rules concerning where the cmake modules that come with KDE libraries (incl. the frameworks) can be installed? I've stumbled upon the importance of that location

Re: [kde] kwin (4.11.12) idle CPU usage - persistent replace with kwin_gles?

2016-01-30 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi again, So it seems kwin_gles really does work better for me nowadays. I've looked into making it the default WM, but cannot get that to stick. The "default applications" KCM doesn't give me the option to pick a kwin alternative, and setting windowManager=kwin_gles in ksmserverrc has no effect

Re: [kde] icons of dolphin all wrong

2016-01-29 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Friday January 29 2016 00:51:26 wim delvaux wrote: Hi, >good idea ... it was not. I could not even logon (sddm showed black screen) Hah, the times I tried sddm was the only one not showing a black screen (when not using pure software-based rendering). >So Question > >1. how can I recover my

Re: [kde] The current state of EGL in KDE/Plasma

2016-01-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday January 28 2016 13:13:50 Kevin Krammer wrote: > > Besides, there is a warning when enabling EGL in Compistor System Settings, > > but it only warns about disabling compositor if EGL is not available. I > > think a warning about maturity and stability would be appropriate? > > EGL has

Re: [kde] The current state of EGL in KDE/Plasma

2016-01-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday January 28 2016 10:04:22 Martin van Es wrote: >So, my questions are: what's KDE's offficial stand on EGL? Is Martin >(Graesslin)'s Blog still valid? Should we be worried GLX will be deprecated >before intel driver is ready for DRI3 by default? Should we worry about >wayland integration

Re: [kde] kwin (4.11.12) idle CPU usage

2016-01-27 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Wednesday January 27 2016 06:54:11 Duncan wrote: >But the option applies to the entire desktop, turning compositing off for Right. Not an option for me either. > So if any window, in your case Chrome's, claims to have new content, then > the > compositor will get notified. If it is a window

Re: [kde] kwin (4.11.12) idle CPU usage

2016-01-26 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Tuesday January 26 2016 23:07:27 Kevin Krammer wrote: >If you have compositing activated then the compositor will have to create a >new frame when window contents change. That still doesn't tell me why it'd have to do that for parts that it is not concerned with, but that also sounds like it

Re: [kde] kwin (4.11.12) idle CPU usage

2016-01-26 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Tuesday January 26 2016 17:20:38 Duncan wrote: >more flashing you see and the bigger area that's flashing, the more >repainting is being done and the higher both kwin_x11 and X's usage >should be. Maybe, but *why*? Kwin isn't supposed to do anything with window contents in my configuration,

Re: [kde] kwin (4.11.12) idle CPU usage

2016-01-26 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Tuesday January 26 2016 16:39:33 René J.V. Bertin wrote: Well I be Quitting Google Chrome takes kwin down to <0.5% CPU. Guess I'll have to go figure out what in Chrome stresses the WM! R. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Acco

Re: [kde] kwin (4.11.12) idle CPU usage

2016-01-26 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Tuesday January 26 2016 17:09:51 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Hi, >Isn't it compositing the output of top, as top updates the screen by >displaying CPU usage? > >You know, chickens and eggs. I'd hope not; I use the tty version of top so it is supposed to update only the window content not the

[kde] kwin (4.11.12) idle CPU usage

2016-01-26 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, What is causing KWin to use about 2.6-3.6% CPU in top when I'm not interacting with the machine? From discussions like [https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6039108.html] I understand that it's the compositor, but I don't see what that component would do when it's supposed to do nothing.

Re: [kde] Shortcuts stop working, application windows aren't showing anymore and the systray seems to freeze

2016-01-25 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Monday January 25 2016 17:44:28 Kevin Krammer wrote: >Right, just checking that this goes through KDE factilities and the problem is >not more low level. > >No idea though, sorry. Are these things that go through kdeinit? Because that could explain the timeout-like behaviour you're seeing. I

Re: [kde] Shortcuts stop working, application windows aren't showing anymore and the systray seems to freeze

2016-01-25 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Monday January 25 2016 14:30:53 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> After about 40 seconds, the panel and icons come up. That seems about normal ... for a netbook like the one I also use =) >And there seems to be several kuiserver and kded processes. It seems >they increase by one every time I l

Re: [kde] keyboard layout being changed for KDE applications only (and a list question)

2016-01-11 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Kevin Krammer wrote: > http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.general That was the easy part (so easy I could have guessed...). As I suspected, logging off and back in solved my issue, but I'd hope a better workaround exists. é à ü î ñ ... yay :) I've seen vague references to a kxkbd daemon, but

Re: [kde] keyboard layout being changed for KDE applications only (and a list question)

2016-01-11 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Forgot to mention: This is on KUbuntu 14.04.3 LTS, running very recent rebuilds of KDELibs, KDE-Runtime, KDE-BaseApps and certain others, using the Trusty packaging scripts (cf. ppa:rjvbertin/kde-git). I've been running such builds for over a year now without ill effects, so it shouldn't be cau

[kde] keyboard layout being changed for KDE applications only (and a list question)

2016-01-11 Thread René J . V . Bertin
Hi, I have a question about undesirable keyboard layout behaviour under KDE4, and one about this list itself. I have a regular need to write French text, if not only because there's an e-acute in my name. As a long-term Mac user, the "US (Macintosh)" layout is the most natural layout for me. I

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