Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread KDE lover but not user
Thanks Mr McCabe-Dansted. But... I stopped reading when I saw LXDE. I'm on wmii now! At the moment. I came back. Because I was writhing the last words in this mail 'bout send. So. Don't feed a troll. Just know the facts. This is X + wmii. And it was GNOME some hours before. I also installed some

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread KDE lover but not user
Not! Not and not! === check-in -- check-out any? === I'm not on Gentoo. But I know and love it. It's Debian! I was removing .desktop files and autostart entries, I was finding forum threads which adviced to `chmod -x ./akonadi*`, I was trying to aptitude `--without-recommends`. And e-v-e-r-y

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Serginho
I have not read all your mail. Because I was reading your mail some time before. I noticed your cool word akonadification. And the method that you are describing is clear. I saw it first a little bit before in Opennet.ru forum. Some man mentioned about kde,libs,pim and USE. And I think that he

Re: [kde] Clear KDE

2012-03-31 Thread Serginho
(claws-mail now) May I ask? The user whom I was talking to is one from the capital and we spoke not about OS but about cars. And then I knew that he uses Gentoo. I was excited. Probably his scheme is now my scheme. He uses Debian for server and Gentoo for notebook. And Gentoo with clear KDE. Only

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Serginho posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:51:57 +0400 as excerpted: Now I will go to read your mail. I haven't read it first because I really wanted to say you some words of respect for your explanation which I saw before. Thanks. Please don't think about cyrillic something wrong. They are

Re: [kde] Clear KDE

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Serginho posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:02:44 +0400 as excerpted: May I ask? The user whom I was talking to is one from the capital and we spoke not about OS but about cars. And then I knew that he uses Gentoo. I was excited. Probably his scheme is now my scheme. He uses Debian for server

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2012-03-31, Duncan wrote: Chances are if there's not one yet, there might be one on the way. Hopefully there's someone working on a nice, solid, non-akonadified qt-based mail client, too. http://www.betterinbox.com/ Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2012-03-31, randomm...@mac.hush.com wrote: There is Linus Torwalds. And there is me. I was born at the same holiday as him. And I will be talking as he. Who did you PAY to include AKONADI? I can't speak for the other users on this list, but I for myself did not pay for it

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2012-03-31, Sérgio Basto wrote: Specially wtf is documentation about akonadi ? why we don't know wtf is a mail dispatcher agent for example ? Software infrastructure such as libraries and helper processes are often only documented in developer levle documentation, e.g. API

Re: [kde] Clear KDE

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Nikos Chantziaras posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:16:06 +0300 as excerpted: In case you missed it, you should install the Gtk port of Oxygen: x11-themes/oxygen-gtk (and x11-themes/oxygen-gtk3 in case you need Gtk 3 later.) This isn't a fake theme btw. It's a real Gtk engine and pretty much

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Patrick Nagel
Just wanted to point out trojita - a new version was released days ago (yesterday?), and contributions seem to be picking up. And then there is always Thunderbird, which is also cross-platform for those who have to use Windows or Mac OS X sometimes. With the right stuff on your server you even

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:45:12 +0200 as excerpted: On Saturday, 2012-03-31, Duncan wrote: Kevin Krammer posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:53:55 +0200 as excerpted: http://www.betterinbox.com/ Yeah, they are a pretty new startup and obviously need to prioritze. I was only

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Peach
2012/3/31 Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com Specially wtf is documentation about akonadi ? why we don't know wtf is a mail dispatcher agent for example ? Who did you PAY to include AKONADI? Who was this *** MORON who decided that people need it? Tell us all the users of KDE How much money

Re: [kde] Clear KDE

2012-03-31 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 31/03/12 13:07, Duncan wrote: But I think that's fixed now and hopefully there won't be similar issues in the future, so I might try it. It only takes 2 minutes max to try it. 1 minutes for emerging, and a few seconds to paste the settings to ~/.gtkrc-2.0. No reboot or restart needed.

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2012-03-31, Duncan wrote: Kevin Krammer posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:45:12 +0200 as excerpted: On Saturday, 2012-03-31, Duncan wrote: Kevin Krammer posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:53:55 +0200 as excerpted: http://www.betterinbox.com/ Yeah, they are a pretty new startup and

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/03/31 08:20 (GMT) Duncan composed: I wonder if there's a kde4-desktop-based binary distro somewhere that never-the-less defaults to disabling at build-time all the semantic- desktop stuff A simple non-semantic option (not default) apparently is in the works for openSUSE:

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/03/31 11:13 (GMT+0200) Kevin Krammer composed: However, KDE, as a lot of other Free Software initiatives, is open for contributions from all people, not just developers. So if anyone wants to contribute user level documentation for any of those software components they are very welcome

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Saturday, 2012-03-31, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/03/31 11:13 (GMT+0200) Kevin Krammer composed: However, KDE, as a lot of other Free Software initiatives, is open for contributions from all people, not just developers. So if anyone wants to contribute user level documentation for any of

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:27:51 +0200 Kevin Krammer articulated: On Saturday, 2012-03-31, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/03/31 11:13 (GMT+0200) Kevin Krammer composed: However, KDE, as a lot of other Free Software initiatives, is open for contributions from all people, not just developers. So

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Serginho
Thanks for all the answers. (And the question was -- who _paid_ them to destroy KDE. :) ) -- Serginho From Russia with love ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives:

Re: [kde] Clear KDE

2012-03-31 Thread Serginho
Thanks for all the answers. -- Serginho From Russia with love. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread pete
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:33:13 +0400 Serginho randomm...@mac.hush.com wrote: Thanks for all the answers. (And the question was -- who _paid_ them to destroy KDE. :) ) Well if one was somewhat cynical one would say either the gnome brigade or MS but i think it is just poor decision making and

Re: [kde] Clear KDE

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Nikos Chantziaras posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:19:00 +0300 as excerpted: On 31/03/12 13:07, Duncan wrote: Nikos Chantziaras posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:16:06 +0300 as excerpted: In case you missed it, you should install the Gtk port of Oxygen: x11-themes/oxygen-gtk (and

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Felix Miata posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:18:58 -0400 as excerpted: On 2012/03/31 08:20 (GMT) Duncan composed: I wonder if there's a kde4-desktop-based binary distro somewhere that never-the-less defaults to disabling at build-time all the semantic- desktop stuff A simple non-semantic

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Kevin Krammer posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:27:51 +0200 as excerpted: Creating something is not the only source of knowledge about that something. Granted Stephen Hawkins or other great physists are probably the primary source of information regarding current phyiscs theories, yet I doubt

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread John Woodhouse
I personally don't think there is much wrong with it other than it's clearly crap software that needs writing by some one who knows what they are doing when low level functionality and speed is needed and the rest of the machine needs to carry on functioning. It smacks of c++ high level app

Re: [kde] Clear KDE

2012-03-31 Thread dE .
On 03/31/12 14:46, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 31/03/12 11:51, Duncan wrote: [...] The kde colorscheme settings have an option to use them for non-kde apps as well, and with it checked gtk apps fit in well /enough/ for me. I'd prefer to have actually workable qt-based or kde apps instead, but

Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread dE .
On 03/31/12 14:28, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Saturday, 2012-03-31, randomm...@mac.hush.com wrote: There is Linus Torwalds. And there is me. I was born at the same holiday as him. And I will be talking as he. Who did you PAY to include AKONADI? I can't speak for the other users on this list, but